Jerry Quarry v Henry Cooper 1968

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    What has that got to do with it? Muhammad Ali was 188 against Alex Miteff. Are you saying the number 188 means Quarry can beat a guy who always had his number?

    178lb 3-4 Al Jones (who wasnt tough enough to last more than 2 rounds with 12-24 Lou Bailey just months earlier) lasted 10 hard rounds with 16-0-2 Jerry Quarry in 1966. so how can’t Cooper at 188 survive?
     
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  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    They are fighting in 68.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Quarry overwhelms him early
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yes, 1968, quarry fought 3-4 willis Earls and 0-12 Bob Mumford. It was not his best year. He might have beaten Spencer but so did Billy Walker. Against Ellis Quarry underwhelmed. Quarry is remembered for being a better fighter after this period. Any top fighter taking a guy ten rounds who has less than ten fights and had been knocked out before is not firing on all cylinders. With that performancE Quarry would need more than that to be a certainty to beat Cooper who at 34 was still consistent.
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That 4th kd in round 10 nearly beheaded Karl...Ringo whipped his ass.
     
  6. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO I'd give Jerry the nod here but styles make fights and the poster that said this fight would be just like Bodell is wrong.
    Even an old Henry would jab Jerry early on and, maybe, land a left hook or two early on; Jerry could be cut too though not as often as Henry.
    IMO, Jerry prevails in a spirited fight; Henry was no slouch!
     
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  7. ronnyrains

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    you call 100-93, 100-93, 99-91 a close fight? Nothing woeful about Earls, #5 WBA LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT 1970, gave Liston a go. You mean he took 1/2 a round off Quarry in a non close fight!
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why does klompton show up as banned...?
     
  9. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    I have a clipping Moreno's card was 100-93, (94-91 did not happen) mention me a bout that has been scored 94-91 in a ten point "must"
     
  10. mcvey

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    Walker never ranked, never beat a ranked fighter, and was beaten by both London and Bodell whom Quarry beat .
    Quarry had a back problem in the Ellis fight,the Mumford fight was just a run out to see how he felt, he dropped Mumford in the first and stopped him in the 5th.By 68 Quarry had already beaten Patterson,London,Miteff, Daniels and Spencer. Cooper was only consistent at Euro level, he wasn't even world ranked in 6867,66,65,64,and he only got in at no10 in 69 as courtesy because he beat a fat ,washed up Mildenberger.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ok ,point being what is close about the scoring?
     
  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    One judge made it 94-91 not 99-91. Days earlier Earls was knocked out by a weary old Sonny Liston. Yet weighing just 185lb he took Quarry to a decision?

    “Quarry came out of the battle with a cut over his left eye, received in the 7th round, and a bruised ear. Earls suffered a bloody nose and his left eye was nearly closed at the end of the scrap." -San Antonio Express

    This fight was obviously hard fought and yet this guy 185lb Earls had a record of 4-8. Earlier that year earls could not last two rounds with a balding lightheavyweight called white. Then right after bruising Quarry’s ear and cutting his eye and lasting the distance Earl was smashed to smithereens inside of two rounds by the great Dave Zyglewicz. So something was wrong with Quarry in 1968. He can’t outdo Zyglewicz or an aging Sonny Liston?

    If 185lb Willis Earls can bruise Quarrys ear, cut his eye and take Jerry the distance in 1968 with such a shabby record why can’t Cooper??

    Quarry had better form after this period. 1968 was not a good vintage for Jerry.
     
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  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think you are doing a disservice to Quarry by knocking Walker. Both Quarry and Walker beat Spencer in 1968. If Walker isn’t any good after beating Spencer (in half the time it took Quarry) what does that make Quarry?

    In fact, when Walker smashed Spencer to smithereens (in 1968) Walker was coming off a stoppage loss to Henry Cooper! So Cooper beat the guy who beat Spencer quicker than Quarry did.

    Jerry was a great fighter. But in 1968 he did not have as good form as he later would.
     
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  14. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would be a good fight .I would expect Jerry to win possibly by KO but Cooper was a skillful fighter with a dynamite left hook .Jerry was a bit hot and cold if he wasn't at his very best I wouldn't be surprised if Cooper won possibly on points.
     
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  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yeah. If Quarry got busted up winning a decision over a 185lb novis in 1968 we cant entirely rule out Henry, who was always in shape, always had a great jab and came to win.
     
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