Jerry Quarry vs Ingo's Bingo

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  1. George Crowcroft

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    Yeah, he was such a poor finisher that his series of vicious uppercuts that kept Machen up.
     
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  2. janitor

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    It takes a truly exceptional finisher, to put Machen away like that!
     
  3. George Crowcroft

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    Ah, never mind me then.
     
  4. mcvey

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    But not counted out,he was criminally allowed free shots on defenceless men yet they were not counted ten over he hit Patterson from the blindside with free shots, yet never floored him for ten =Sloppy
     
  5. mcvey

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    No it doesn't, he hit Machen with everything but the ring posts and he was still upright when the fight was stopped.
     
  6. mcvey

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    But couldnt floor either for the count!
     
  7. janitor

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    Sonny Liston hit Machen with everything but the ring posts.

    Joe Frazier hit Machen with everything but the ring posts.

    They couldn't put him away!

    Yes I know that Frazier stopped him in the last round, but he hit him with everything except the ring stool to do it.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Nope, Machen was on his bike against Liston who never really landed much on him at all.

    This is good finishing!
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    How is Ingo's stoppage of Machen any more impressive than this stoppage of Mac Foster?

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  9. Dubblechin

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    Well, for one thing, Eddie Machen didn't get up.

    For another, Machen was the #1 contender, and Foster wasn't.

    For yet another, Johansson didn't have to come from behind, like Quarry did.

    He stopped Machen in one round instead of six.

    And, finally, when Quarry fought Machen eight years later, he LOST to Machen.

    Does that answer the question as to why it was a better knockout?

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  10. Dubblechin

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    Have you actually seen Ingemar Johansson fight? I'm starting to have my doubts. At what point in the count did Machen rise?
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    These posts are odd.

    Yes I do realize they were the same size. Ingemar Johansson was a heavyweight of average height for his era. He wasn't a giant. He wasn't a 6'8" Vitali boxing 6'2" challengers.

    Everyone Ingo fought was basically his size. And he beat EVERYONE he fought as a pro. ALL of them.

    Do you realize that?

    And he wasn't a one-trick pony. He had a classic European boxing style. He stood upright. He jabbed. He moved. He threw straight rights. He beat any number of people at range. That's what the European style is.

    He wasn't a flat-footed bomber. He didn't just close his eyes and throw right hands all night. Have you guys watched his fights? The vast majority of them are around.

    As far as Mathis and Ellis go. Quarry didn't beat Ellis. So I have no idea why you brought that fight up. And Johansson fought Eddie Machen (who Quarry lost to) at his best, and stopped him in about 90 seconds.

    And I never saw the Quarry-Mathis fight. Have you? Please do tell us if you have, because it's a lost fight.

    I can kind of see who has watched a lot of Quarry fights and who hasn't watched many Johansson fights by some of these responses.

    Many of you have a very odd perspective on Johansson.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

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    Um ... huh?

    Maybe if you take your laptop and turn it on its side he's still upright. (LOL)

    Jesus. (LOL)

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1RR89B4kcOM/maxresdefault.jpg
     
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  13. janitor

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    In every respect imaginable!
     
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  14. Glass City Cobra

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    I looked back at the thread and it was actually resident jack ass choklab who claimed that. You were just agreeing with and liking so many of his posts i thought you were the one who said it.

    Not that it matters, but if you did claim it then it absolutely would make me question your judgement when it comes to determining how dangerous a fighter is. You did in fact favor Corbet over Tua unless my memory is failing me again. It's not like you don't have a track record for these sorts of threads.
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

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    You're answering my question with a question which means you are either not paying attention or putting fingers in your ear. What im asking is very relevant: who did Ingo ever "outbox"...? I am simply asking you to defend the claim YOU put forth that he could do this to Quarry.

    Joshua beat everyone he fought as a pro, therefore he should be favored over Vitali Klitschko. Do you see the problem with this line of thinking? Ingo, like Joshua, doesn't have a very big resume. I could say the same thing over Ike Ibeabuchi.

    And you're putting words in my mouth. I never claimed Ingo was flat footed or he simply closed his eyes and spammed right hands. Use another straw man and I will simply ignore you.

    Ive seen all 3 of his fights with Floyd. Maybe you're forgetting where Ingo didn't throw his right for nearly 3 rounds waiting patiently to land his bomb in their first fight? That had been his style since the amateurs where he was heavily criticized for not opening up. Im not saying he does this every single fight but if he were to do that against Quarry it could be a huge problem.

    No i haven't seen quarry vs Mathis but ive seen some of mathis' fights and i know hes not a stationary target. Some people believe Quarry was robbed against Ellis. Point being you were wrong that Quarry "needs someone to stay still" to hit them.

    Do you mind addressing Jerry Quarry's counter punching? 3rd time asking now.