Jersey Joe Walcott vs Tua

Who are the best fighters Gomez or Ray ko'd?

Could," possibly have been as quick as Tua ",and equally could have been as slow as molasses,his 38% kayo record doesn't indicate he was great at applying his undeniable power.

 

It is of course not helpful that we don’t have film of many of the punchers that Walcott faced.

The general pattern seems to be that he beat punchers who were not all time greats, and lost to those that were.

 

How about instead of asking redundant questions, you just do your own research, reach a conclusion, and state your argument. Not all of us have all day to go back and forth with stupid questions when you know very well what you want to argue.

My point was that we don't know if Tua was faster, thank you for reinstating that.

His KO % is distorted by 33 losses, stellar quality of opposition, and grueling schedule. He often dropped or hurt great fighters in losing efforts, suggesting he was lacking overall as a finisher at the elite level.

His unique KO of Maxim, and subsequent knockout wins over quality fighters suggests he was better at applying power than the percentage implies. In contrast to Tua, he appeared to have the same ceiling in regards to who he was effective against.

 

It was quite a puncher rich division that Walcott distinguished himself against.

He had to negotiate guys like Elmer Ray, Lee Q Murray, and Curtis Sheppard.

Then you had some heavy punchers that he didn’t have to fight, like Turkey Thompson and Bruce Wood****.

Walcott is the reason why none of these guys fought Joe Louis for the title.

Ray was one of the stronger contenders of history, who never fought for the heavyweight title.

Murray was the phenomenal talent that everybody raved about, who somehow didn’t live up to expectations.
The Cleveland Williams figure of the era if you like.

Sheppard was the Ernie Shavers figure, who everybody said was the hardest hitter they ever faced, but was beatable for other reasons.

That is the ecosystem that Walcott rose to the top of, with Joey Maxim being the other joker in the pack.

It is also worth noting that he beat Lorenzo Pac in the pre-war era, who was something of a Mac Foster figure.

 

Do you have comprehension problems? I previously stated.

" This isn't a Lewis or an Ibeabuchi punching Tua, it is merely Joe Walcott. "

Why are you trying to imply a world title fight record of 8. W 2, L 6 is in some way or other impressive?

Frankly I think it is ludicrous to claim that although Tua can be the first to stop Ruiz, Izon, Wilson, Maskaev, KO Sullivan inside 1 round, he somehow can't stop Walcott.

It doesn't matter which way you cut it, Tua has

Handspeed over Walcott

Power over Walcott

Weight over Walcott

and

Chin over Walcott.

Walcott loses, and easily.

 

Lol...seriously?

 

Ha, thats too generous.

Ruiz was the only one who really became somebody in that list.

Oleg beat Rahman twice, but got knocked out repeatedly by every other slugger he faced that could put a 1-2 together.

The rest remained nobodies.

 

Yeah, deadly serious. You are after all talking about a goon so stupid he couldn't even manage to steer a man towards a neutral corner, and begin to count to ten at the same time. Not to mention his chin in comparison to those mentioned above.

However you just revel in your little world of nostalgia, and convince yourself that Grandma's old cooker with the high level grill was far better than today's appliances, or such like cr*p.:rofl

 

Cool, let's hear the argument for Oleg's chin. Is it because he went 2-0 against Rahman without being put out cold?

 

Byrd doesn't have a real title fight resume.

The champion, Lewis, refused to face him, as you know.

 

I can agree with that.:good