Jim Jeffries book/ A Man Among Men

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Sorry but there is CRUCIAL DIFFERENCE ,if Johnson accepted the challenge of a black fighter ,it would mean that whoever won, the Champion would STILL be Black,something that White America did NOT want.Jefffries made a public statement ,reprinted many times that he would Not take a chance on defending against a black challenger,in case he lost the title.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Are you aware that Jack Johnson did in fact defend his title once vs a black man? It happened in the Jack Johnson vs Jim Battling Johnson title fight. You are wrong again McVey.

    Johnson had various offers to fight black contenders, and could make ANY fight he wanted to, maybe not in all locations of the world but the matches could have been made. It did not matter what white America wanted, Jack Johnson picked his own opponents. It the fight was not suitable in the USA, he fought in another nation.

    As for Jeffries he did share the ring as champion in a 4 round exhibition match with black contender Hank Griffin, and returned as the lineal champion in a match vs Johnson. In the eyes of many, since Jeffries retired un-beaten as champion, he still was the champion. You could argue that Jeffries defended his lineal title vs Johnson.

    Had Johnson defeated Hart, the money might have changed Jeffries mind. We will never know. Fighters often say one thing, then change their mind when the money is too great to say no. Johnson failed to impress vs Hart. The public had little interest to see Hart vs Jeffires, so Jeffries retired. There was little money to be made for him in boxing. When there was a hume amount money to be made, Jeffries returned.

    If Lennox Lewis came out of retirement today, he would still be the lineal champion.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Go away you silly ***t.
     
  4. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont think if Lewis came out of retirement, he would be the lineal champ.

    Just like Robinson comeing out of retirement and loseing to Tiger Jones. Did beating Robinson make Jones the champion?? And the likes of Fullmer, Carman, and others non champs?
     
  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    You need to post more. :thumbsup