Jimmy Bivins vs Charley Doc Williams

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by choklab, Jan 8, 2018.

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how good was Bivins at this time?

  1. Not prime but Still a very good fighter with good wins left in him going by this.

  2. Way past his best, would be found out against anybody decent.

  3. As good as he ever was going nby this film.

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    here is film of Jimmy after losing to Joe Louis. He still looks like a world class fighter wouldn’t you say?

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    Let me know how good Bivins still was.
     
  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Choklab, I had watched this recently and scored it. Here was my thoughts on the fight:

    Jimmy Bivins v Charley (Doc) Williams

    Round 1: Bivins
    Round 2: Bivins
    Round 3: Bivins
    Round 4: Bivins
    Round 5: Even
    Round 6: Bivins
    Round 7: Williams
    Round 8: Bivins
    Round 9: Bivins
    Round 10: Even

    Total: 7-1-2 Bivins

    Actual scores were 6-4 (twice) for Bivins and 5-4-1 for Williams and I really have to take all those scores to task. I cannot make a case for Williams in this fight. In fact, I felt overly charitable scoring 2 even rounds. Williams didn't help his cause on my card by allowing the smaller, light-hitting Bivins to push him around all night. I really liked Bivins in this fight. It reminded me of the bout between the light-hitting Ralph Dupas and the hard banging Charley Scott because, like Dupas, Bivins fought right in the pocket and depended on his high volume of punches whilst ducking/dodging/bobbing/weaving right in front of his opponent. And remember, this was the 1951 version of Bivins who already had over 100 fights. I would have loved to seen him in his prime of '41 - '45