In most people's fantasy worlds* Holyfield outpunched and outworked Valuev IN EVERY SINGLE ROUND PRETTY MUCH Haye ROCKED Valuev and was the ring general with consistent and effective movement Chagaev and Ruiz also have cases for beating Valuev Just ask Norman Stoney
How te hell do some people think Valuev won against Haye is beyond me. I even thought Holyfield deserved the decision against Valuev but crappy politics toke away Holy's W. Loving this Young-Valuev war between tommy & BE.