JMM ... better than Barrera or Morales?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ... I guess the career of Marquez is almost done, at least he will not
    become #1p4p anymore and he have no more super significant wins
    at the horizon (maybe one of Hatton, Khan, Maliganggi, Valero, Bradley, etc)

    So how do you compare his career with that of Barrera or Morales
    .... who are 'almost' completely retired now.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Right now i have both MAB and Morales ranked higher than him.
     
  3. JoeV

    JoeV Member Full Member

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    I agree, i dont think he is higher than either of them at the moment, although i really do rate him.
     
  4. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They are about even. One more big win for JMM and he might surpass them. Although Morales might make a splash if he comes back. Maybe he wins a title at 135 or 140.
     
  5. SnoopyboyM

    SnoopyboyM Active Member Full Member

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    At least equal imo if he got the wins that he deserved vs Pacquiao he'd probably be rated higher
     
  6. mikeweavertime

    mikeweavertime Active Member Full Member

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    I think all 3 are really close almost even. I would lean for Barrera over all 3 by a very small margin. He did lose to Marquez, but that was later in his career. Plus Barrera fought better comp throughout. JMM is number 2 because he beat Barrera and was very competitive against Pacquaio. I would go with Morales a close 3rd. Yes he own 1 win over Pacquiao and Barrera, but also lost to both twice. And he never fought Marquez.
     
  7. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's still in third place. A 4th title might put him over Barrera but he'll need to fight into his fourties to surpass Morales
     
  8. tepaltzin

    tepaltzin Guest

    Personally I feel he was the better of the "four horsemen" (EM, MAB, PAC and JMM).

    but he was the least fortunate(being ducked for a while, too many close decisions did not go his way, the oldest of the 4, did not have as pleasing a style as the other 3) and on accomplishments I can see a lot of people putting him at the bottom!
     
  9. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    no but still a very good fighter
     
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hard to say Barrerra and morales have legends all over their resumes but had bad career finishes. Marquez just started getting his huge wins and it looks good cause its happening right now and finding success at weights that Morales and Barrera never reached
     
  11. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    You better rate Marquez higher or he'll make you drink his ****. All jokes aside he might come in 3rd compared to them but is pushing to be higher. It's a tough call.
     
  12. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    MAB, JMM and EM - in that order for me.
     
  13. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    He had idiot managers that didnt get him bigger fights early on. I dont blame him but his managers. He could have had the fight with Morales but went and fought chris John for 35k. That is his promoters fault cause I know he would have wanted that fight.
     
  14. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    but even still theres no shame finishing third behind these two ring legends
     
  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Had he beat John and Pac how would he have shaped