BACK TO TOPIC please fellas! ok here's the deal. a. boxing press & most sane people have jmm p4p no.2. b. jmm nuthuggers have him at no.1. who's correct? jmm nuthuggers, let's deal with facts. please, no crying "but he was robbed both times against pac:|:|:|" keep your opinion to yourself and just look at what it says on the record books. i mean i say pac won the 1st fight by 5 points (consistent with lederman) and pac won the 2nd by 1 point, but that's just my opinion. it's irrelevant, just like your opinion is. so jmm's resume is: j.diaz, casamayor, mab pac's resume is: mabx2, emx2, jmm, dlh, hatton i don't know, but a. looks like the correct answer.
jeff m? danny rand? other jmm-huggers? whereforth art thou? i was expecting a little bit of a debate in response to my post (2-3 posts above). i feel so lonely and rejected...:|:|:|
Silly fool. I already said the overall point of the thread is a valid one, Juan Manuel Marquez' resume isn't what it should be at this point in this career. However, as always, the King of *******s, Snell, goes about it all wrong. All of the *******s back that turd up and I am wracking my brain over that. Why?
You should note that Pac's win over JMM was a split decision and that JMM has a drw on PAC despite being dropped 3 times inthe first round!!! Hatton is nothing to brag about and the second MAB fight was against an aged MAB. If you want to count ODLH then well throw in Derek Gainer and Manuel Medina for Marquez.
What I'm saying is, at the end of the day you could only have the description of the skills of JMM. It's similar to being a politician, eloquent speaker, great in debating, excellent communicating skills.. but when you asked what HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE TO BENEFIT your CONSTITUIENTS, the politician can't say much. There you have it! JMM is a good counter-puncher, good skills in boxing, you can even a write a book about the stlye and art of boxing if you want. NOW, ask for the ACTUAL ACHIEVEMENT/RESUME?! He beat CASA. Yes, the ULTRA prime CASA at 37. For JMM fans it's called achievement. For PAC fans to even think of fighting CASA will be called CHERRY PICKING!!!! MAB - He beat MAB again on the tail end of MAB's career! OK. Juan Diaz!..... FINALLY!!!! WHO ELSE BUDDY?! unless you want to hype JIMREX JACA?! :rofl AT THE END OF THE DAY! You will be JUDGED on WHAT HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DONE/ACHEIVED. It's the TRUE MEASUREMENT of your SKILLS!
I know YOU wish the record states something like this.. WIN LOSS DRAW WOULD have won WOULD have lost 50 1 2 10 0 :rofl:rofl:rofl
a split decision win = W on the records. Hatton is something to brag about. the man at 140. only one loss to the then p4p king. 2 division champion. i mean, there were threads before the fight with titles like "wait til hatton lands the first body shot on pac"! ok we'll take out the 2nd mab fight out because, as you say he was old. but we'll take that out of jmm's resume as well, cos he was even older (by that logic, take out grandpa casa as well). and let's take out dlh bc, yes even i'll admit he was shot to bits (we all love hindsight though don't we). btw, that dlh would beat gainer and medina at the same time. for you, i'll even take out the 3rd pac-em fight. therefore their amended resumes are: jmm: J.diaz pac: mab, em, jmm, hatton therefore. p4p no1 = pac; p4p no2 = jmm. we can even take out any 3 of those pac wins and any of them would be better than juan "baby fat" diaz.
ouch. ouch. the way to tell these people off. :rofl juan diaz in his prime. :hey vs. mab/jmm/EM/Hatton. "you're the weakest link". :hi::hi:
Honestly, all *******s are ****ing ******ed. You can't have a constructive conversation with any of them. Manny would be ashamed of you turds. Snell, Silvermag, and the majority of posters with some ugly pinoy broad as their avatar. He deserves better fans.
True, so far iv'e read nothing but ignorant bias bullshlt from manny fans, and they actualy believe all their bullshlt, its amazing!, respect to both JMM, and EP. The top 2 p4p Fighters