Joe didn't stop Roy because he had huge respect for him, and let Roy see the final bell in his last fight.. Joe said it was an honor to share the ring with a great like Roy. I respect Joe for not finishing my fighter off, which he could have, if he just picked up his pace down the stretch.. But that to me also speaks volumes of where Roy's career was.. No fighter in their right mind, Calzaghe included, would have let a prime or even half his best Jones hang around when they could get him out of there. I also agree, Joe is an ATG and we can continue.
I agree with what you've wrote here. If we'd have been in the same position, we'd all have probably done the same. Roy brought the least amount if risk for the biggest reward. But it left a bad taste, after Joe had dismissed Roy as a threat on two occasions leading up to the fight. He even said that he'd be disappointed if Roy was to be his last fight. Then after he'd fought Roy, he said he was retiring because there was nobody out there to fight and nothing more to accomplish. So as far as I'm concerned, he's brought on all the criticism that he gets.
Whoopee, just what the world needs!! Another Calzaghe thread in which every big mouthed pea brained low life Yank calls him a tosser, and spouts off about the steroid cheating, dog fighting semi literate piece of **** called Jones Jr. Highly original.
I will keep posting this over and over you idiots... Calzaghe was an ATG and thats all there is to this topic. IF Hopkins would have stood and fought he would have got worn down and KO'ed but Hopkins tried to steal the fight and still got beat. Hopkins is an ATG and so is Calzaghe. When was Hopkins prime? when he was beating WW's? or Robert Allen or Joe Lipsey? No it was when he stepped up and fought bigger fighters. Calzaghe is the thorn in the flesh to a ton of yanks and I find it funny as hell. Bottom line? Calzaghe would have beat eveyone Hopkins fought and beat.
You're a bit special aren't you? :tired Do you think if Joe had signed to fight Pavlik after he beat Hopkins that Pavlik would have fought Hopkins? That's not how boxing works. Joe turned down Pavlik before Pavlik v Hopkins was signed and opted to fight washed up Roy instead. I wasn't interested in Calzaghe v Pavlik after Pavlik lost. Calzaghe could have been the one to "expose" Pavlik and he'd have got a fûck ton more credit for doing so than fighting shot to shît Roy. Pavlik signed to fight Hopkins after Joe had turned him down. Shît not another factual article to pîss on your chips! :hi:
Ha! Joe turned down Pavlik, AFTER he'd said he'd be disappointed if Roy was to be his last fight, because he wasn't great anymore. He said that in an interview with Setanta sports early in 2008. It'll try and find the video. :good
I wish I got here earlier to answer this question, but the correct answer is NO He barely beat Hopkins, some can easily argue he lost... And then he refused a rematch No, the accomplishment does not look any better
I respect you Roy, so I'm going to beat your face bloody and give you a sustained beating over 12 rounds. Same as I did to my other friend Jeff Lacy...:roll: At this point Joe wasn't KO'ing anyone so that's why it went the distance. Same reason for Hopkins not KO'ing Roy in rematch. Hopkins and Calzaghe aren't explosive punchers and there are harder punchers out there.
Joe was a great fighter but through a combination of hand injuries, over-protective management and being low profile/high risk he was never really pushed into the limelight when he was at his peak. He woke up and smelt the coffee too late in his career. He certainly never had a run against top level opponents like Froch is having now.
Joe eased off on Roy in the last third in the fight because he had him under control. he just cruised the rest of the way. after Jones started to clown about like he always does when he dropped Joe, Joe turned it around and clowned him instead. that clowning continued for quite a while. it wasn't respect in there(although Joe does, and did, have respect for Jones as a fighter, he never shows it to them in the ring. look what he did to a good friend of his in Woodhall. ruthless) it was his hands. if he really did want to finish Jones off, i agree, he could have. but why risk more damage to your hands when you've got him under control and pretty much beat already? Joe made the right choice in that regard. if Jones had made a serious move and became a real danger, then yes, Joe would have brought the beast out. to the last bit. you have to talk to some of the ****ers on here like that because you'll just get swamped if you don't. i'd rather it wasn't like that... but hey. :good