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Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

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Rico Spadafora said: ↑

His 'sources' are that Roy and his people 'talked' about a fight with Lennox, Tyson, etc. For some reason that happened at every weightclass he stopped in and the fights never happened :roflatsch

The one time he had a contract in front of him already signed by his opponent that he and his promoter agreed to he wouldn't sign and priced himself out

Wonder why? I am sure it had nothing to do with Roy Jones :rofl
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Rico Spadafora said: ↑

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Erh4RKbHE

How does Roy even have fans after an interview like this?

The guy wasn't interested in making any meaningful fights Merchant destroys him :rofl
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Why don't you remind us all what happened after this interview, Einstein. :good

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BatTheMan said: ↑

I cannot see the vid, but I reckon its the one where Steve Collins is in the ring right? Its a hillarious vid. Jones is extremely funny and his antics gets a giggle out for me.

The point is not to be mistaken though. At this point in time even HBO is fed up with Jones picking up huge paychecks while coming up with lame excuses as to why so and so is not an option. Look for the ripped fuel brigade to spin it some other way.
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Lou De Bella and HBO did NOT want Roy to fight Steve Collins at this time, after Frazier.

They wanted Roy to fight a unification against Reggie Johnson, and wanted Collins to fight Joe Calzaghe, with the winner potentially facing the Roy vs Reggie winner.

Collins went into camp to face Joe, but then he collapsed and he had to retire.

In the same year, Joe said "I'm not chasing Roy Jones. Be honest, Roy Jones is a good fighter, and I don't want tough fights."

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Rico Spadafora said: ↑

yes he fought the worst two on the list :roflatsch

He had Collins in the ring with him and wouldn't fight him either so that makes 2 of 5 that he fought. Merchant absolutley obliterated Roy and confronted him on his handpicking ways. Roy had no answer and Murad was forced to just sit back and do a snaggly toothed smile while Larry Merchant schooled Roy on his awful opposition he was fighting :rofl
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HBO DIDN'T want the Collins fight. :good

They wanted Roy to unify against Reggie Johnson, which he did in his very next fight.

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Rico Spadafora said: ↑

And Hopkins avenged it. And Roy ducked a rematch when HBO wanted it. And ducked DM who was willing to come to the US to fight and ducked Collins. Merchant nailed him to the wall and he had no answers.
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Rico Spadafora said: ↑

Roy would not under any circumstances take the rematch in the time period of that video when HBO wanted it.
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Where was Hopkins at that point in 1999?

He hadn't fought Vanderpool, Echols, Keith Holmes or Felix Trinidad at that point.

He'd recently fought Simon Brown and Robert Allen, and was at 160.

Roy was TWO weight divisions higher, looking to unify.

Another joke of a post from you.

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Rico Spadafora said: ↑

Speaking of opinions I am sure Loudon will be on here shortly to tell me what Roy was thinking and what Hopkins, DM, Collins, were also thinking and why the fights didn't happen :roflatsch

Then he will tell me what woulda, coulda, shoulda happened :good
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bailey said: ↑

this thread grows too fast to keep up with, but I do notice that Loudon thinks DM beating the man doesnt count and thinks thats in the past when trying to debate the DM/Jones argument.
When asked questions like do you think its the fighter who makes the title or the title that makes the fighter, he wont answer but tries to argue that DM only held the WBO title and says that DM beating the man was in the past and seems to forget that DM had the WBA & IBF titles before Jones and that DM beat the fighter who had claim to the WBC title
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The king of spin, who never allows for circumstances.

Comeback and debate with me properly.

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HEADBANGER said: ↑

Has Loudon educated you by regurgitating the thought processes of Roy Jones throughout his entire career :rofl

Everytime I show up here on esb, that fart sniffing degenerate Queency K cowardly scurries away like a rat up a drainpipe :deal

If you see that lil PU$$Y, tell him he's in big trouble, his daddys back in town :vonnecunt
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I'm finding it impossible in trying to educate him.

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Loudon said: ↑

The king of spin, who never allows for circumstances.

Comeback and debate with me properly.
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Look at the top 10 Jones beat at LHW, then look at the top 10 DM beat...

It is no wonder why everyone thought Roy was the best at the weight.:deal

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Mind Reader said: ↑

Michael Spinks also had an insanely low amount of natural body fat... His lowest weight ever as a pro was 170 lbs, with 4.6% body fat... Mackie said that he had already lost about 8-9 lbs of muscle, from his walking weight of 190... Those next 10 lbs would have made him ineffective as a MW in my opinion. 24 hours or not..

I refuse to believe he would be a MW today.. He is bigger than that. Could he have made it? Possibly of course.. But I doubt very seriously that Mackie and himself would have agreed that he would be more effective there. Pretty much meaning he would have decided to be a LHW, even today, possible even CW, and HW..
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I agree entirely. :good

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Mind Reader said: ↑

Look at the top 10 Jones beat at LHW, then look at the top 10 DM beat...

It is no wonder why everyone thought Roy was the best at the weight.:deal
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Correct, and go an look at who Dariusz fought, after negotiations had broken down with Roy.

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Loudon said: ↑

Correct, and go an look at who Dariusz fought, after negotiations had broken down with Roy.
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You can see the intentions..

DM hid, and Roy damn near cleared out the entire top 10... The ring had Tarver rated over DM in 2002..

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Mind Reader said: ↑

You can see the intentions..

DM hid, and Roy damn near cleared out the entire top 10... The ring had Tarver rated over DM in 2002..
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Loudon said: ↑

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Not only did DM miss Roy, but a good chunk of the top 10 for multiple years.

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