Joe Calzaghe vs Canelo At 168

No it's quite amusing in fact, so much so that I rewatched RJJ Calzaghe round 1, and the idea that the guy who got put down by ancient RJJ would beat Canelo is humorous. Now don't get me wrong prime for prime it would be a very difficult fight as Calzaghe is a swarmer and he would probably win a lot of rounds, but he's also never fought somebody like Canelo and Calzaghe getting put down or hurt is a distinct possibility. If Hopkins and a 39 year old RJJ could put Calzaghe down what do you think a prime Canelo could do to him?

 

that was at LHW though, but it is true that joes chin was exposed as less than expected.

we need to wait on Canelos SMW success first before making any meaningful judgement.

 

class A true, he still has a stash of it, despite saying he gave it up.

 

Calzaghe looks like a movie star.

 

HerolGee

 

they agree with me, brill.

but dont let me stop u from shouting that they arent for another 3 pages of thread.

 

Do you think Roy Jones Jr could have stopped Calzaghe in Round 1 if he would have landed another big shot after Joe went down? it looked like Calzaghe was really shook up after that. RJJ talked about that after the fight that he wanted the knockout but maybe he was trying to pace himself and not throw himself out. One big shot mighta put Calzaghe out there, he was really dazed by that knockdown.

 

if prime then sure, but not at 40 something like when joe chose to get miraculously cured of fear of flying and face him. Roy couldnt pull the trigger no more.

But you have the wrong guy, its hopkins who really had him stopped, joe admitted by direct quotation that he had to low blow hopkins in order to survive. That would have lamost certainly have been an early ko by the 43 year old man who hadnt stopped anyone for years, without joe cheating sure.

 

I've asked Joe about renting the space he owns in Herol's head, and he said its very roomy but a bit bare. So I complained about the smelly carpets. Holding out for a discount.

 

Joe Calzaghe was in his late 30’s, brittle handed and past his prime as well.

 

Roy was late, late, late 30s and 4 and a half years after the Tarver KO. RJJ went 12 rounds vs Joe and knocked Joe down. Joe got very favorable scoring from the judges that night. All 3 judges had Calzaghe winnning 11 rounds in a row after the knockdown. For all the talk of Canelo getting favorable socring, he's never got anything compared to what Joe got vs Roy, and that was in America. Now I'm not doubting that Joe won, but unanimous scoring of 11 rounds to Joe, is that corruption?

Joe winning all 11 rounds like that where he just outvolumed RJJ but RJJ was still landing flashy shots you would think Roy would have won at least a round or two. But Joe got all those rounds I don't know with all the complaining I hear about Canelo's scoring if we're gonna compare the two we have to look at their scorecards and if Joe can win that many rounds vs RJJ just by throwing more punches, what if Canelo fights Calzaghe like he fought GGG in their first fight, you know picking his shots ? Can he win a decision fighting like that ? For all the talk of Canelo getting favorable decisions, he didn't get the win fighting that way vs GGG so why would he get the win fighting that way vs Calzaghe ?

In addition, many also thought B-Hop did enough to beat Calzaghe but Calzaghe got the decision. Now B-Hop fought a much closer fight with Calzaghe, but in both the RJJ and B-Hop fights Calzaghe received very favorable scoring. If Calzaghe got such favorable scoring vs two American legends then why wouldn't he receive favorable scoring vs Canelo? How is Canelo gonna win a decision vs Calzaghe ? I could see Canelo outboxing him landing the best punches maybe even knocking down Joe like RJJ but then Calzaghe skating to a decision win just because he kept throwing, while Canelo was dodging punches and countering. I could see Canelo putting on a clinic and deserving the win but Calzaghe getting a favorable decision. Maybe another draw like Canelo GGG 1. But if Canelo fought like he did in the rematch despite being bigger I don't think Calzaghe has the kind of a chin that GGG does and Calzaghe might not be able to stand up to Canelo's shots and just absorb them like GGG did. If Calzaghe went down like he did vs RJJ he could be in real trouble. RJJ could not get him out of there but you can bet if Calzaghe started wobbling into forearms vs Canelo he's gonna be in real trouble. I just don't see Canelo letting Calzaghe off the hook. We seen what Canelo did to Amir Khan, if Canelo fought the way he did in the GGG rematch, Calzaghe might literally get Khan'd. I never seen a guy duck into a forearm before, if he tries to pull that kinda stuff vs Canelo I doubt he's seeing the final bell.

 

A forearm is still a forearm, not a punch. The glove/fist did not touch Calzaghe's face.

 

Watch it again on the slow-mo replay. The glove did connect on the jaw near Calzaghe's ear, so it was technically a punch, but obviously the forearm did the damage. It wasn't in any way a foul by RJJ though. Calzaghe was all wobbly and tried to duck down and he ducked right into the forearm as the punch was landing. A solid jab by RJJ set up that whole sequence which nobody talks about.

 

You're just too much a simpleton.... You are trying to compare a 5'8" fighter with one who's 6'1" and another who's 5'11", as if canelo can just automatically do what they did regardless of attributes they possess?