Joe Calzaghe vs Chris Eubank Better Resume

its not easy to tell because although Watson was battering Eubank late on, it might have well been Eubanks ploy of letting Watson tire. It wasnt the first time or last time he got lazy in the ring with that tactic.

 

Merely hype (and hate) with no substance

 

Eubank said his legs went due to killing himself to make weight. And Watson just did not take advantage.

 

Madness
You only gave Watson 2 rounds? No wonder you were able to score the Collins fights for Eubank with you biased as hell judging. Eubank-Watson I was close and could of gone either way

 

Reid gave that fight away. I had Calzaghe winning by a round or so

 

Only person on Joe's list that can even put him in the conversation is Hopkins ..I mean are people serious Kessler is solid but Benn and Collins trump that in terms of resume who is left ?Lacy ? Reid ? Jones ws nothing more than a name by the time Joe fought him .

Eubank by a country mile ..Joe would have never ended undefeated taking the path Chris took ..Can't beleive this is even debatable !

 

This

 

tis true that Watson and Collins and prob Benn would beat Kessler.

Its disiningenious to argue that Calzaghe would never be undefeated taking on Eubanks opponents, because Joe would simply never take a route where there was a chance he would be defeated. If he was facing someone young and dangerous, he would always make sure he had a home advantage on which to fall back on if it got too much. Kessler is the best example of that, he was Joe's one real risk.

Its a bit unfair to compare the two, they both had different goals.

Eubank wanted to put in as many defences as he could and the retire fast - he HATED boxing, as he always was quick to point out, 'ith a mugths game'. So its unfair to criticise Eubank for not being round longer when he DIDNT WANT to be around as long as Calzaghe, in the end he was just looking for a fast buck. Whereas Calzage deliberately chose as many crap opponents as he could in order to stay unbeaten for longer thn anyone had - he sought to set a longevity record. Its unfair to criticise Calzaghe for picking crap opponents when his intention in doing so was to stay unbeaten for a record number of years. Calzaghe never wanted to do what Eubank was doing. Its like comparing a rally driver and an f1 driver.

 

Solid post. Some really nice points made

 

Than Eubank, Calzaghe of course. Also a bigger mouth.

 

Both Wharton and Malinga were dominated by Eubank.

Malinga was on his last legs, about 40 when he fought Woodhall. Malinga was a very nice boxer around '89-'92, that was his peak.

Wharton I don't think was ever the same after the Eubank beating, and no, Reid didn't beat him 'comfortably' - it was a very rocky ride!

 

How do you work that out?

With Reid

Ask yourself this. How could you not score rounds 2, 3, 4,7, 8 (

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), 12 to Calzaghe? Remember Reid had a point deducted also.

I thought like 2 judges that Calzaghe was a clear winner and except for McCrory who scored a draw and later seemed to agree all of the other studio guest scored wide for Calzaghe including Mcguigan and Eubank. I also think damaged handed (damaged his hand in round 4) Calzaghe won and felt he won rounds 1, 9 (Reid did land the punch of the night in round 9 though) & 11.

Good away win for Calzaghe



With Hopkins

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.


In which case there is many that felt Eubank lost -
Watson 1
Eubank lucky not to get DQ against Sherry
Malinga
Close
Benn 2
Close 2
And you think Eubank won against Collins first time around when he lost a decision

 

Calzaghe was never the champ at light heavy

Calzaghe first beltholder he beat was Jeff Lacy

Calzaghe never beat a linear champ

 

ps


Bailey has been cuttign and pasting that list for years

this is not a debate when he does this


it is spam