Joe Calzaghe was a good fighter

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  1. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Now that C.J. is presented with the transcript of the hearing, to which by the way he was present according to him, he has no comments all of a sudden.

    What's happening C.J. ?

    Had a change of heart ?
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was a great fighter.

    He mainly gets hated on due to his fans, and the fact that he was content to defend a lightly regarded belt for 10 years, whilst portraying himself to the media as an avoided fighter who was desperate to fight the best but who was denied due to politics etc.

    Regarding Bernard and Roy, although Bernard was still an elite level fighter at an advanced age, Roy clearly wasn't.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why?

    He wouldn't go anywhere near Roy when Roy was on top, but was then desperate to fight him for his last fight after he'd repeatedly said that he was shot.

    You can't respect that.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Behave.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Come on.

    It was an awful fight.

    Most of Joe's shots were ineffective cuffs. Really scrappy. He just let his hands go where he concentrated more on volume rather than accuracy and technique.

    Bernard didn't land much, but the punches he did land were clean and effective.

    It was quality vs quantity.

    A horrible stylistic match up.

    I think most people were glad there wasn't a rematch.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was.

    He couldn't fight at a fast pace at that stage.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He wouldn't move up.

    He refused to rematch Roy at a 168 C-W in 2002, so he was never going to move up to fight Joe the following year.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Made Roy look like a chump?

    Is that some sort of an achievement?

    Joe himself said that Roy had been shot since 2004, which is the only reason Tarver and Johnson were able to beat him.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Calzaghe was one of the best fighters of the 90`s.
     
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  10. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe also had good boxing IQ.

    I rewatched the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight last night. Hopkins started strong. Calzaghe made adjustments and took over the fight. By the end of the fight, Calzaghe was stinging Hopkins with some pretty solid shots -- more than slapping arm punches.

    He adjusted and out boxed Bernard. How many have done that? A good win for Calzaghe.
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward didn't have to fight abroad did he?

    Different circumstances.

    Joe was relatively unknown until he whipped Lacy in 2006.

    Fighting a shot HOF after repeatedly dismissing him as a threat isn't any sort of an achievement.

    Joe would never have moved up and fought Kovalev. I can tell you that for certain.
     
  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    who else did that to roy
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    How could he embarrass a near 40 year old fighter after saying that he'd been shot 4 years earlier?

    How could he have beaten Roy worse than everyone else?

    Even at 36, Joe was an elite fighter.

    Glen Johnson was never elite. Yet in 2004, he bullied Roy for 9 rounds before knocking him cold.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No.

    They mock Joe for fighting Roy after he repeatedly claimed that a fight would be pointless as Roy had been shot for 4 years.

    And where was he whilst Roy was on top?

    Hidden away fighting WBO non entities, whilst claiming he was afraid of flying etc.

    That's why he gets mocked.
     
  15. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You can’t say that for certain and Joe at that time was more of a name than ward was through out most of his career. And if you did a poll now OR back then... the majority of people like watching Calzaghe WAY more than they like watching ward.

    “Joe was relatively unknown until he whooped lacy” Lol NOT in the UK and a lot of Europe he wasn’t.

    I hope you never get over the fact hopkins bit off more than be could chew and got embarrassed by Super Joe :D And how old was roid jones and how’d he do in his two fights prior to Calzaghe?? Exactly.
     
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