Joe Calzaghes win over Hopkins

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    The debate that never dies

    I thought it was as close as you could get. But with what Hopkins had to pull merely to survive being stopped for the first time in his career (by a white slapper of all things) Calzaghe rightfully won. In fact he won the fight twice - by UD and by stoppage

    Agree Hopkins should have been DQd, but that was never going to happen with "Firm but Corrupt" in the ring

    Bottom line is the better man and better fighter won, and Calzaghe's crying cheating fouling divng headbutting racist ***** lost

    For once, poetic justice :smooch
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Hopkins is still fighting, and solidified himself as a legend, while Cazlaghes so called greatness will be questioned for all eternity
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins didn't belong at 160, he probably should have moved up long before.

    Hopkins has basically used PEDs as he has moved up in weight to.

    As a complete package (comfortable weight, experience, strength, younger than 46), the best Hopkins to have ever turned up to a fight is the one that faced Calzaghe.
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Hopkins had been brave enough to face Calzaghe in 2001 then he probably wouldn't be a legend now.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Hammer meet nail.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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  7. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What has his being a convict got to do with anything?

    As for a generic story line it's an A+ positive in that he made a mistake as a young man as all young men have & do & then chose the path of most resistance & proved himself a success in his chosen field by self belief, willpower & discilpline & that is to be applauded & not sneered at considering the options left open to him after his jail term. He's an incredible example of the american philosophy of CAN & WILL DO!!!
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fully agree with this,duranimal. It took strength of character to turn his life around.
     
  9. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeh stevie, when you pick through the bones of it it's beyond incredible, he's still tormented in many ways as america is an unforgiving place once you've transgressed & gone outside the system regardless of what they say. Bernards a total & compleate restless captive of his own emotions in wanting to be recognised & accepted by his peers for his life achievments with what he's done with his life.

    You've only got too look at the pavlik fight when he walked over to the ring ropes & stared down into the press section & just stared down at them with not a word spoken. I like the bloke, he's a funny ****er & i bet when he comes to put his boxing life down in writing then he's def going to upset plenty thats for sure:yep.

    But i wonder how he'll cope when the day comes when he's got to call it a day?? You can see boxings his life, he loves it.
     
  10. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On Friday Night Fights he half-admitted that he just wasn't aggressive and active enough to take the decision convincingly against Calzaghe.
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    A scimitar of sanity finally cuts through the deluge of delusion !
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    If we only count rounds where all three judges agreed, Calzaghe wins 4-2.

    If we add in the remaining six rounds where two of the three judges agreed, Calzaghe takes it 9-3, a result that reflects what actually happened.


    It wasn't a pretty fight, but it really wasn't a difficult bout to score.
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's a mostly great post. Well done.

    I always thought it was close enough that calling it for Hopkins was OK (i had it for Calzaghe by a point) but this is a compelling post.
     
  14. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    you have no proof at all. joe must have used peds to when he moved up to 175. joe also had great stamina to produce such a high punch output. will just say that he was blood doping. :roll: at 43 bhop was at his best? :lol:
     
  15. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    cuchulain, china hand joe has stated that he thinks calzaghe is the greatest pound for pound fighter ever. he's hardly sane.