Joe Cortez is a disgrace

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  1. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Cortez is a ****ing disease.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it was a bit early as it didn't look "devastating", but you can't blame Joe Cortez. He was getting bopped around the ring like a rank amateur. How many more "flash" KDs would be OK? How about next round? Was he just going to be popping up off of the canvas all night?

    Joe did his job because Kirkland didn't.
     
  3. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly , the ref is there to protect boxers who cannot protect themselves.

    Kirkland had his chances , but spent move time on the canvas than picasso.
     
  4. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    People on ESB don't go with logic or reason, they go with the popular trend. The popular trend right now is: another black, American hype job got exposed. So, regardless of how fine Kirkland looked, they will call this a good stoppage, while, when other more popular fighters get stopped, they get angry and **** on "soccer mom refs" for making an early call. This was a terrible stoppage, and I'm by no means a Kirkland fan. But its pointless to argue this, the majority will go with the trend. GLASS JAWED HYPE JOB EXPOSED!!!
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Come on man. I think we can all agree this was an early stoppage and Kirkland could have continued. In the same breath we could have guessed Kirkland came out in the second round got permanent brain damage when he was hit and broke his neck on a turn buckle/rope.

    The fact of the matter here is that you (Joe Cortez) are standing there watching a guy falling all over himself from the lightest of punches (first flash KO was from a counter JAB! :shock:). Then the other guy is gaining momentum and landing cleaner more decisive punches. Not only is Kirkland getting dropped, he has no defense to speak of. In that split second, what do you do?

    Yeah sure we can say "he looked OK", but seriously what was going to change? If you are Joe, is this guy's unmercifully stopped destruction what you want to be remembered for? Really? If you were OK? Go get a rematch in Tokyo. Trust, they will allow you to be beaten to a bloody pulp.:deal
     
  6. vanargian_guard

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    Brain damaged from that fight? From a guy with what, 7 KOs? Hahaha, come on man!

    I would've let it continue, at least freaking counted to see if Kirkland can get to his feet again, if he's not stumbling around, if he can answer questions.

    You act like no fighter has ever come back from 3 first round KDs...
     
  7. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kirkland got up the 2 previous times immediately. He was never in serious trouble and none of the shots were very hard punches. Kirkland was just about to get up once again and being that there is no 3 knockdown rule and the way Kirkland got up prior with no hitches it was a horrible stoppage.

    Joe Cortez continues to have to much say as a third man in the ring dictating fights way more than a referee should. He is a horrible ref who should be banished from boxing and this should have been done ages ago.
     
  8. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I will always commend people on good posts , but this is truely a terrible post.

    The stoppage was absolutely correct.

    There was over a minute left in the 3 minunte round , that means for 25% of the fight Kirkland was on his ass , and for the other 75% of the fight he was being wobbled to ****.

    Im not into this whole hype job business , this is not why I post here , but the most correct action was to stop the fight .

    What do you want to see , an undefeated fighter get knocked cold????

    Kirkland can come again.

    Peace.
     
  9. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    Fighters need to make adjustments to opponents, its only the oppening round. That Ichida guy was far taller than Kirkland, Kirkland was on the painful end of an adjustment curve.....or maybe moments from getting KOed cold. Either way, if he was willing to get up and fight on, and had his wits about him (which Cortez didn't bother to check), then as a fighter he had every right to continue. Again, look back to Marquez Pacquiao. Any honest observer would agree Juan Manuel was getting curbstomped, he looked far worse than Kirkland did.
     
  10. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    You let that Albuquerque weatherman get into you head :-:)-:)-(

    Were you not here last night when the front page was littered with David Lemieux is a hypejob threads?
     
  11. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    Who? darryl? Man I don't give a damn about race, but I do agree a lot of closet racists are enjoying seeing a "black thug on his way back to the big house". Check the lounge, ESB is full of these clowns. But its way more just any hype job exposed, than race. Boxing "fans" enjoy this more than anything.
     
  12. paulcris

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    I think the decision to stop the fight is correct but i take exception to the referee preventing Kirkland from getting up. It is better if he made the decision after Kirkland got up. But if there is a 3 KD rule, then it is a TKO.
     
  13. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO 3 Knock down rule was in effect for this bout. Kirkland got up both times instantly and was fine and made it clear it to Cortez he was fine. He was throwing back and landing and should have been given the opportunity to get up. Cortez had no business sitting on Kirkland like that before determining Kirkland's status.
     
  14. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I try and respect every poster on here , but you are comparing that 10 round fight between a prospect and a 35 year old 7 knock out fighter to Pacquiaou vs JMM for the undisputed featherweight championship of the world????

    A fight where both fighters are extremely experienced and know how to adjust , have both been down before and were not getting wobbled around the ring until late??? Kirkland was getting hurt from the 1st second of that fight.

    The relevance of the fight is completely different , you should know better.
     
  15. Hosoi

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    I think all future Kirkland fights should have a 6 knockdown rule. That way, I get to see him put on his ass six times each fight. If Cortez would've let it continue, he just ends up back on his ass again. The people arguing this are oblivious.