Joe Frazier quote - Manliest quote ever?

There's a quote from Frazier in Thomas Hauser's Black Lights, something about how boxing made him feel, how it gave him self-esteem. It's a really good quote, but I can't find it on the internet, and can't find the book at the moment.
I'll keep looking.

 

I don't think it was necessarily negative at all. I don't think many people say meaningful things often, certainly not sports people. People say meaningful things rarely. Maybe that's a negative outlook on my part, I don't know.

I think your post was crap because it belied your own prejudices and agenda concerning another postor rather than any worthy input or acknowledgment of the subject under discussion.

 

He'd be castigated on this forum for those views, that's for sure.

Reznick would destroy him.

 

everybody or most people if they could pick 1 fight in history to see seem to go for ali vs louis or ali vs tyson etc

but for a real fight , toe to toe action 15 rounds i always go with my 2 fav heavyweights

frazier vs holyfield

NOW THATS A FIGHT

 

You've lost me now.
I really have no idea what you think I meant.
You're confusing me.

I explained it for you already.
Of course I was talking relatively, that's what I clarified for you first off.

1. Ali talked a lot, and most of it didn't qualify as deep or spiritual or "superior" to the talk of the "simple man". Most of it was light-hearted entertainment.

2. Therefore, the volume of spiritual, deep, meaningful utterances from Ali may not amount to much more than the average man, or the average fighter.

3. Therefore, let's not assume Frazier was generally always heavily outgunned in meaningful and deeply thought or spiritual talking.

That's been my argument all along, and it's not that complicated. And it's a direct response to Pachilles' original post, and absolutely relevant to it.

If you wanted to twist it you could say I'm attacking Muhammad Ali. If you wanted to twist it you could say I'm attacking Joe Frazier.

You could just take it for what it is.

 

A Joe Frazier topic with references to Ali - what else is new? The second in the last couple of days,I believe.


Don't recall there ever being one single fighter who was as attached and as irrelevant without the mere mention of another as Frazier is with Ali.Quite creepy in a way.Most great fighters have their own legacies to to fall back on.

 

This is a f*cking good post. Ali was the first fighter I was a fan of, but I got to say that in many ways, Joe was more of a man. You made that point well.

 

Only if "not vastly superior to Frazier" is a "negative" thing to say about another fighter.

 

No, but I said "Ali rarely said anything meaningful" in direct response to Pachilles' assumptions that Ali was vastly superior as a spiritual or cerebral talker, compared to Frazier.

It's strange that you would isolate my statement completely from the context, especially after I immediately clarified it for you when you responded "Ali said plenty of meaningful things".

I clarified it, and all you can say is "negative (not surprised)".
I take it you understand and agree with the substance of my posts, but for some reason you're taking an anti- position on a personal basis (hence, "not stunned" statement).