Joe Louis 1930's vs Sam Peter today.

Joe Louis is charged with manslaughter against Peter...can we finally stop talking about how Peter would have beaten Marciano..Louis..Dempsey...Ali..etc now??

 

Peter would be very lucky to beat a good version of Joe Bugner, let alone Louis.

 

I hope so.

 

Hence my realistic thread vs Bugner.

 

Totally agree, totally. I was actually thinking of making it Tex Cobb instead of Bugner.

 

...Slightly off topic, but the Klit brothers aside, the heavyweight division stinks. Really, it stinks.

It's so bad, they are looking to an untested cruiserweight to generate some excitement. Some division.

On the undercard of the Klitschko - Peter fight, I watched 2 other heavyweight fights. All four fighters were fat. One was a grotesque pig whose back wobbled about like a bowl of jelly when he moved. His opponent, the hyped Odlandier Solis, who looked as slow as a glacier, was also overweight, although he showed at least some athletic ability.
(Read: he looked like a poor man's Frank Bruno, with a layer of fat around his middle.)

People go on about superior conditioning, superior diets and superior training. In the lighter weight classes that seems obvious, but the heavyweights? They should just call it 'fatweight' and be done with it.

We're too easily fooled by sheer weight these days. These fatties and their GH bloated physiques aren't impressing me.

 

Louis KO4.

 

Agree with all of this. Suddenly the 80's doesn't look so bad given todays lack of depth, infact the likes of Thomas, Dokes, Page, Tubbs and Berbick all at their best would definitely stand a great chance of holding at least one belt in todays climate. All had ability for sure, more talented than virtually any of todays punters, but most of 'em never quite pieced it together consistently enough. Holmes and Tyson would sweep up the current division, not to mention the 90's top men (the likes of Lewis and Bowe). The Klitchskos, Wlad in particular are good enough fighters, but nothing that daunting.

 

Just because one era looks even worse than another one does not make that one any better.

 

Not to sound like a whining git, but yes. The 80's fatties were almost skinny by the standards of some fighters today.

You have the Adonis-like Klits...and everyone else, most of whom are fat, fat, fat.

Joe Louis would tear the contenders today a new one, no question.

 

I don't think anyone has ever said Peter and conditioned in the same sentence before unless there's an "isn't" between them

 

Sam Peter ends up with a mangled face. Stopped in the sixth.