Joe Louis Rebuffs Jack Johnson.

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    But you know this is false. You know who Ali was. You know the company he kept, the way he treated others, and what he was all about. You're fooling only yourself when you let a small negative moment in his life define him.


    After it was all said and done, Hitler was the most hated person in the world. Ali is the most loved. The comparison, even in regards to people's admiration, is crazy. As with McVey, I'll leave it here as well.
     
  2. BillB

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    I am too.
    I've said everything I can to try to make my point.
    There is no reason to continue harping on it.

    BTW- I read your post and I can understand your feelings on the subject.
    I don't agree, but I see why you think what you do.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I read that you moron. Mandela just passed not so long ago. Where you not aware of what the ANC was doing?

    Perhaps, your a bigoted fool:lol::lol::lol:.

    I'd rather not send my money to groups that do bad things like the ANC has. But you did.

    Your are racists, ends justify the means type. Exposed again.
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I've seen it. The black Muslim movement was a hate group and Ali was a poster boy / speaker for them for them for a period of time.

    The movement believed there was some large wheel in the sky, and Ali warned of the day when the wheel would have planes fly out and bomb all of their enemies. Yes-- he believed this

    Also, Ali was a puppet. They told him what to say about Vietnam. IF fighting in Vietnam was viewed as good for the moment, I have little doubt Ali would have supported the war.

    So while Ali's stance on the war was right, it wasn't his own thoughts, and it was political motivated.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Mandela who has been dead for 3 years, was the recipient of the Noble Peace Prize. What is the point trying to debate with a bigot who can't even spell the
    the condition he is afflicted with?
    You are getting worse, who would have thought that was actually possible? :-(

    You keep your money for the IBRO, your little vanity project,and to donate to Donald Chump's election.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Ali wasn't a deep thinker like yourself:lol:
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    We agree to disagree.:good
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    More like he was a racist like yourself. Keep donating money to groups that diminish human rights!
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly whom am I racist against? You keep changing your stance on this.:lol:
     
  10. reznick

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    No historic figure has a perfectly clean slate.

    This is in the 60's - 70's. Thousands of white people were trying to join their cause too. Society had had enough of racial oppression. The language was extreme, but people understood the undertones and context.

    As racial discrimination became less extreme, so did the rhetoric of groups like the Nation of Islam, whom today, is nothing but a tiny ragtag group of people following non radical islam.

    Ripping quotes out, without context of many different variables, is not an accurate reflection of the actual moment.
     
  11. Vince Voltage

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    It doesn't seem in keeping what we generally know about the gentlemanly Louis, but who knows....
     
  12. choklab

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    At the end of the day boxers are like the vast majority of us ...not really qualified to voice political opinions or set shining examples. They just happen to be given a lot of attention.

    Have we all behaved responsibly at all times?

    Let he cast the first stone and all that..
     
  13. mcvey

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    Yeah Nelson Mandela was a racist.Calling you ret*rded is a compliment .You're actually a CRETIN!
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Donating money to a group that diminishes human rights as you have shows me your character.

    You have been anti-white accomplished heavyweights for years ( Jeffries, Marciano, Klitschko ) , and very pro black heavyweights who were either disgusting individuals ( Johnson ) used as a symbol for your agenda, or outright racists in Ali.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Moron, If you can read I said I liked Mandela. :lol::lol::lol: He was also a boxer in his day.

    Man you have some serious issues.