Joe Louis vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  1. Bad Dog

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    This would be an amazing fight. But i'd tip Louis to win, probably on points. Louis is probably the best ever fighter, IMO. His technical ability and power are second to none.
     
  2. Bad Dog

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    Who the hell picked a draw? LMAO!
     
  3. Son of Gaul

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    He based his entire style around patiently controlling distance and angles. I still insist that this would be absolutely impossible against a world class puncher who is 4" taller with a 5" reach advantage.
     
  4. Son of Gaul

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    Notice that I said it would be impossible against a "world class" puncher who also has Vitali's physical attributes. I say this because Louis is renowned for dismantling large opponents with ease. The problem is that none of those guys were as athletic, as conditioned nor punched as hard as Vitali.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    Vitali 'athletic'? He is uncoordinated..clumsy..and his technique is sloppy/
     
  6. mcvey

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    Max Baer?
     
  7. PetethePrince

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    I challenge the fact, or should I say statement that Vitali is a good combination puncher. It's all paw, paw, jab, measure some more, jab, paw, paw, right hand. Whens the last time Vitali threw a combination? 6 years ago? Vitali's not a good combination puncher. There's nothing fluid or fast about his combination punching. In fact, it's hardly better than Carnera's if it is at all. Schemling, Sharkey, Conn, Godoy, Charles, etc... these fighters could throw combinations.

    I found it funny because if Louis is "plodding" what is Vitali? I imagine graceful and athletic. Louis footwork was completely economically. He showed fast feet in his fight with Baer and Carnera especially, though. If you see it's there when he needed to (And when he's in with a bigger man). To think he was just a ploddy slow footed HW is a complete manipulation of the truth.

    That's what Louis did against Carnera... :lol:

    And while Carnera may not exactly be Vitali. He's much much closer to him than anyone Vitali has ever faced in comparison to what Joe Louis is EXCEPT Lennox Lewis. Who was aging, past his best, and ripped half of his face off in the process.
     
  8. PetethePrince

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    It's great really. You can't ever win an sort of argument with someone who thinks Louis is ploddy but Vitali a great combination puncher. :lol:

    Actually, you just have.
     
  9. PetethePrince

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    Exactly. Louis would murder him, no doubt. I'm 98% sure that size would have much less significance than those who actually pick Vitali are harping on about. Specifically, very much so in this style matchup and fantasy match. The gulf in skill is just far too enormous for it to matter.
     
  10. janitor

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    You could make the case that Primo Carnera was abetter technician than Vitally, that Buddy Baer punched harder, and that if you combined certain key atributes of both you would have a better fighter than VK who Louis would still dismiss with relative ease.
     
  11. RockysSplitNose

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    On the flip side - Vit has definately never had to cope with a boxer remotely as good as Joe Louis either - when you say none were as atheletic as Vit I would say you're digging yourself deeper here because Buddy Baer was far more atheletic than vit in my opinion - Klit is about as stiff and robotic as they come whereas Baer had a little more fluidity to him for such a big guy - Klit looks difficult to beat only when he's in there with guys with no experience - who have no clue about how to really fight - the only person Klit has really faced even approaching Louis' level is the old sloppy version of Lennox Lewis and he was putting it on Vit big time himself - I see Louis all the way in this one - Klit is just not in the same ball park
     
  12. Fighting Weight

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    :deal:deal:deal

    VITLAY won that fight in hindsight though, because the crowd booed the stoppage and there was no rematch :nut:D
     
  13. Ramon Rojo

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    I think Vitali would win this. This could be very even fight though for a while, but Vitali would win by decision or late TKO.
     
  14. Ramon Rojo

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    :patsch :-(


    Vitali is classes above Carnera.
     
  15. Ramon Rojo

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    Old-time nuthuggers never cease to amaze me.