John Wayne in The Quiet Man

choklab · Feb 13, 2010

The Morlocks said: ↑

My kids couldn't drive when they were midteens, but they sure stole the car a lot and drove on down the road.
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a nice anecdote but I doubt they could pass as a london cabbie for the day or formular1 race driver under close scrutiny?

he grant · Feb 13, 2010

But funny how Duke made his image as all-American hero while ducking the war ...

Seamus · Feb 13, 2010

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I[/ame]

Boxed Ears · Feb 13, 2010

delete

MRBILL · Feb 13, 2010

Seamus said: ↑

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I
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"Repo Man" is classic..... I bought the video yrs ago at the store...... I saw that back in the 80s....... Good ****.......
:hey

MR.BILL

mcvey · Feb 13, 2010

Boxed Ears said: ↑

(shrugs)

America's entry into World War II resulted in a deluge of support for the war effort from all sectors of society, and Hollywood was no exception. Many established stars rushed to sign up for military service. Most notably, James Stewart, who had already enlisted in the US Army Air Corps, surmounted great obstacles in order to do so.

As the majority of male leads left Hollywood to serve overseas, John Wayne saw his just-blossoming stardom at risk. Despite enormous pressure from his inner circle of friends, he put off enlisting. Wayne was exempted from service due to his age (34 at the time of Pearl Harbor) and family status, classified as 3-A (family deferment). Wayne's secretary recalled making inquiries of military officials on behalf of his interest in enlisting, "but he never really followed up on them."[29] He repeatedly wrote to John Ford, asking to be placed in Ford's military unit, but continually postponed it until "after he finished one more film."[30] Republic Studios was emphatically resistant to losing Wayne, especially after the loss of Gene Autry to the Army.[31]

Correspondence between Wayne and Herbert J. Yates (the head of Republic) indicates that Yates threatened Wayne with a lawsuit if he walked away from his contract, though the likelihood of a studio suing its biggest star for going to war was minute.[32] Whether or not the threat was real, Wayne did not test it. Selective Service Records indicate he did not attempt to prevent his reclassification as 1-A (draft eligible), but apparently Republic Pictures intervened directly, requesting his further deferment.[33] In May, 1944, Wayne was reclassified as 1-A (draft eligible), but the studio obtained another 2-A deferment (for "support of national health, safety, or interest").[33] He remained 2-A until the war's end. Thus, John Wayne did not illegally "dodge" the draft, but he never took direct positive action toward enlistment.

Wayne was in the South Pacific theater of the war for three months in 1943–44, touring U.S. bases and hospitals as well as doing some "undercover" work for OSS commander William J. "Wild Bill" Donovan, who thought Wayne's celebrity might be good cover for an assessment of the causes for poor relations between General Douglas MacArthur and Donovan's OSS Pacific network. Wayne filed a report and Donovan gave him a plaque and commendation for serving with the OSS, but Wayne dismissed it as meaningless.[34]

The foregoing facts influenced the direction of Wayne's later life. By many accounts, Wayne's failure to serve in the military during World War II was the most painful experience of his life.[35] There were some other stars who, for various reasons, did not enlist. But Wayne, by virtue of becoming a celluloid war hero in several patriotic war films, as well as an outspoken supporter of conservative political causes and the Vietnam War, became the focus of particular disdain from both himself and certain portions of the public, particularly in later years. While some hold Wayne in contempt for the paradox between his early actions and his later attitudes, his widow suggests that Wayne's rampant patriotism in later decades sprang not from hypocrisy but from guilt. Pilar Wayne wrote, "He would become a 'superpatriot' for the rest of his life trying to atone for staying home."[36]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne
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Good inside info ,that sits with a biography I read about him ,and several documentaries. :good
I beleive he came to regret things later,as did Jack Dempsey, Jack at least found some redemption during the 2nd WW, when he went ashore with the troops. Wayne never got a chance to redress his decision.

HomicideHenry · Feb 17, 2010

Whoever said John Wayne was a ***** is a straight up American hater!!!

BoxingFanNo1 · Feb 17, 2010

HomicideHenry said: ↑

Wayne got off his bar stool and stood to his full height, towering over the man and said "Do you want to find out?", to which he backed down.
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Remember, Wayne wore lifts/high healed boots, so when he stood up he'd have been around 6'7-6'8.

Would you mess with a guy that tall and that build?

HomicideHenry · Feb 17, 2010

From a grappling standpoint, hell even a boxing standpoint, a bigger man is an easier target than a smaller man would be. In grappling, a big man is easier to take down than a smaller man. In boxing, unless you're fighting a Lennox Lewis, if you can bypass a big man's reach, he can do very little to defend himself. So, yeah, I'd rather go after someone over 6'5" than someone my own size.

BoxingFanNo1 · Feb 17, 2010

HomicideHenry said: ↑

From a grappling standpoint, hell even a boxing standpoint, a bigger man is an easier target than a smaller man would be. In grappling, a big man is easier to take down than a smaller man. In boxing, unless you're fighting a Lennox Lewis, if you can bypass a big man's reach, he can do very little to defend himself. So, yeah, I'd rather go after someone over 6'5" than someone my own size.
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Give me someone my size (5'9, 180-190lbs) over a 6'5 220lb+ guy any day of the week.

Call me crazy.

Pusnuts · Feb 17, 2010

I read something in print years ago that John Wayne was a bit suspect and liked to wear little tight come hither shorts, dont ask me where I read that but it rather sticks it in the mind :roll:

Wouldnt surprise me if he was a bit phoney compared to Jiimy Stewart, Bogey etc

Gesta · Feb 17, 2010

I heard that Marion was a "mans man" ?

turpinr · Feb 18, 2010

mcvey said: ↑

Good inside info ,that sits with a biography I read about him ,and several documentaries. :good
I beleive he came to regret things later,as did Jack Dempsey, Jack at least found some redemption during the 2nd WW, when he went ashore with the troops. Wayne never got a chance to redress his decision.
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what makes wayne's hypocracy worse is the hero role he played in war films.many of britain and americas stars enlisted but not john *****.

red cobra · Feb 18, 2010

HomicideHenry said: ↑

Whoever said John Wayne was a ***** is a straight up American hater!!!
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:deal

ThinBlack · Jun 4, 2013

Jim Brown was right about him, definitely.Don't think he was the man everyone made him out to be.

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