4-7 could conceivably gone either way. Every round other than that was clear. I don't understand how the judges didn't give Roy Round 2.
I was jokin Roy took rond 1, the rest were Joes. Some of them were slight, some were comfortable, but he won them.
This is misleading, and it depends on how you score a fight. If you score heavily for activity, then yes, Calzaghe wins those. If you score for clean, effective punching, Jones was still throwing the more clean, effective shots in those rounds, or arguably was anyway. There are different ways to score fights, it is not just x threw and landed more than y. Someone could land 50 pawing jabs in a round with no effect and the other lands 10 hard, precise power punches there is definitely room to interpret. Sadly it seems that more and more judges are simply scoring on punches thrown rather than other factors--defense, ability to control the ring, cleanliness and effectiveness of punching etc.
But the point is that Calzaghe was landing plenty of clean, hard shots. He can't help it that he no longer has the power he used to have, the fact is he was still throwing 'power' shots, and landing them. I agree that landing loads of jabs shouldn't give a fighter a round over someone who is landing big punches, however at no point other than the 1st round did i feel that RJJ was landing more clean shots than Calzaghe, even totally discounting the lesser shots.
I gave Roy 1 &2 and could certainly see 5 going to him for the fact that most of Joe's punches in those rounds were landing on arms and gloves and didn't move Roy back. And of course he can't help if he has the power or not, but it does influence scoring IMO; if he had better power those shots wwould have had more effect, as it was they didn't, therefore they weren't as effective as the shots that Roy was landing. It is what makes scoring such a subjective thing. :good
Agreed. I can certainly understand people scoring round 2 to RJJ, and maybe 5 too. Personally i thought Calzaghe did enough to take the rounds, as there was plenty of clean work in there from him as well as the volume.
wow, i made a thread the very day. all the calzaghe fans ridiculed me 4 it. Roy Jones was very much in the fight until when that cut came. the problem here is peole score slaaps on arms as landing punches but hey. i saw it the same way u did
It's always like that day of/after fight around here. The general board becomes laughable for about 48 hours until the dust settles.
Round 1: 10-8 Jones Round 2: 10-9 Calzaghe Round 3: 10-9 Jones Round 5: 10-9 Calzaghe Round 6: 10-9 Calzaghe Round 7: 10-9 Calzaghe Round 8: 10-9 Calzaghe Round 9: 10-9 Calzaghe Round 10:10-9 Calzaghe Round 11:10-9 Calzaghe Round 12:10-9 Calzaghe I didn't have Roy doing anything effective after the 3rd round.
Calzaghe won rounds 3,4, and 8-12 CLEARLY. The rest (besides RJJ's 10-8 round 1) were very competitive.
If someone had a card of 115-112 Calzaghe, I think thats a legitimate card. Anything from 118-109 calzaghe to 115-112 calzaghe is legit. I don't know why people are so ignorant to see that rounds 2,5, and 6 were close rounds. Round 7 was a close round as well if not for the cut. Round 8 RJJ won the first 2:30.
Dude, I don't think he won by that much. I had it 116-111 Calzaghe. If you honestly believe that rounds 2 and 5 were 100% calzaghe, you're a nutcase.