Josh Taylor Retires

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ash234, Jul 21, 2025 at 5:58 AM.


  1. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you are looking at Achievement Based ratings, which in the 1st instance are always, always inaccurate, 2cd they don't tell the full career stories of any fighter, not in full, not one, in 'actuality' & contextually with Who, What Place and/or Status fighters held and Opportunity, MOST Fighters Don't get equal opportunity, that is Boxing, which IS Bussiness and just like Bussiness - Ownership & Secured Investment all too often superseeding "Rules of Play" if you will.

    Boxing is the most Nationalist, Partisan and Corrupt sport/BUSSINESS of them all.

    Lloyd Marshall for example IS One of the Greatest Fighters of ALL Time, he never got near a title, and Marshall is just 1, one among Hundreds of Great, Great fighters.

    H2H is the ONLY Way to 'compare' & rate fighters and even that is a very hard excercise to be absolutely right, Ranking Fighters in fact is impossible to get right and always will be. But 'achievement' based ratings are another animal and a poor one at that...

    H2H Ratings look at a Fighters - Skill, Excellence, Opposition - Win or Lose, Weight & Fighting Up in Divisions and Longeviety at and among the Top.

    19 fights, what if he would have fought even 30 times, nevermind more than that, many more... how many Catterall's would he have met.

    Taylor IS a Good & Top fighter, NO WHERE Near among Scotland's TOP Greatest H2H fighters, sorry.

    Look at Jake Kilrain foe example, a great, great fighter at the TOP for years, met everyone that counted, stepped up in weight, was a Top 10 Contender all day long and suffered a bit of the usual Boxing Bussiness or Politiking as Lenox Lewis calls it.

    recognizes all the Taylors of the fight game, but remove achievement based placements from one's understanding, because it is completely inaccurate & incomplete - Always.
     
  2. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trim the fat off, sum it up.....

    Taylor, before he moved to London, incredible and at that time someone I genuinely thought would have given Crawford his toughest test.

    Money, London, Davidson, those three things in any order, ruined everything.
     
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  3. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Active Member Full Member

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    he fell off sharp but he was one of the few Brits who was mean and nasty enough to take it to the Americans, get in their heads and beat them, not just put in a valiant effort and receive plaudits for being a plucky loser.
     
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  4. GDM74

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  5. Lil Niall

    Lil Niall Active Member Full Member

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    Being undisputed was great but the beating/humbling of O Hara Davies was my favourite Taylor moment. Hearn was in Davies corner and it was one of the first times that Hearn's bull**** was exposed.
     
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  6. ash234

    ash234 Ash Full Member

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    Brilliant that. Made him quit.