Joshua Hearn/Wilder Dibella stand off.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Beez, Oct 19, 2017.


  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder can say what he wants ,but at the end of the day its Dibella making the decisions and turning where the least resistance is. He even admitted to having great anxiety during the Washington fight just bc Washington was another BIG HW. Hearn acts nothing like this which is why he gets the fights made and wasn't hesitant at all going after Klitchko, another guy wilders TEAM clearly and self admitted not to want anytime soon.
     
  2. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Why would AJ need to fight Wilder?? Ever??

    The belt means nothing because it is about making money and what money does Wilder bring to the table??? AJ is getting 20 million for his next fight against a relatively unknown fighter why does he need to fight Wilder??

    Wilder is under this illusion that he is a draw and that it is good business to fight him but until he actually stops fighting cans and steps up then this fight won't happen..

    Eddie Hearn is trying to give Wilder a road map to make everyone rich but his arrogance seems to get in the way..

    Fight Whyte do well make a mega fight..

    Does Wilder realise IF Tyson fury does actually get back into the ring he will be facing AJ before Wilder so that rules 2018 out for starters..

    He should have took the Whyte deal and been fighting him next and maybe go in first..
     
  3. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder needs to understand that the bigger fights for Joshua might lay in the direction of Parker, possibly a domestic against Haye or a rejuvenated Fury not to mention Ortiz, Ruiz, Povetkin and Pulev. There’ll also be the inevitable mandatory defence meaning Joshua could be tied up with these until mid 2020 early 2021. By that time bigger fights against Helenius, Joyce, Dubois and other rising young Heavys might catch the imagination more than a fight with Wilder.

    If Dibella and Wilder aren’t careful they could find themselves on the outside enviously looking in at other fighters earning big paydays in front of huge crowds while they earn peanuts in small arenas, all the while being laughed at by the rest of the boxing world.
     
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  4. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    So pretty much like now...
     
  5. Beez

    Beez Active Member Full Member

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    Hearn has said why he doesn’t think that will happen is the money involved... Joshua is getting 20 million a fight now.

    He won’t be in no tournament that’s paying what the others are getting.
     
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  6. Ty577

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    It wont be box office in the US,thats what the problem is.Both are unknown their,why would Americans pay for a ppv which are ridiculously expensive,for two fighters they have never heard of.But then Showtime would want this in the US,these are the problems,i'm putting it out their,i dont think this fight will happen for another couple of years.
     
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  7. Manfred

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    Wlad is an old legend and most of the props goes to him for putting up very stiff opposition.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad lost his title to Tyson Fury in one of the worst performances by a reigning champion in history. It was like he wasn't even trying to win. He landed like four punches a round.

    Then he was out for nearly TWO YEARS.

    When Joshua fought Wlad, there were three young heavyweight champions with belts (Joshua, Wilder and Parker) and one without (Fury).

    At BEST, the 41-year-old inactive Wlad was the FIFTH best heavyweight when Joshua fought him.

    It was a great fight, too. Don't get me wrong. (Well, a great couple rounds.) But enough of the Wlad was the second best when they fought. Wlad hadn't won a fight in TWO YEARS when they fought. He was in his 40s. He wasn't the second best anything when they fought.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

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    DiBella is a pawn in all this. He's the "promoter" like Carl King was the manager of the guys Don King promoted back in the day.

    If Hearn works out a deal with Haymon, the fight between Wilder and Joshua will happen and Hearn will promote it. Dibella really doesn't have much say in the matter.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HA HA HA. Lou DiBella gets to put his name on the poster and collect a fee. Haymon is making the decisions. Don't kid yourself.

    At the end of his fights, Wilder usually thanks the following in this order - Al Haymon, Shelley Finkel ... and then Lou DiBella somewhere down the line among the others.

    That's the pecking order.
     
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  11. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad was ranked above all of them apart from Fury, so like I say second best heavyweight.

    Wlad also had a better win the two years before the Joshua fight than everyone apart from Fury, so again the second best heavyweight.

    The Wlad Joshua smashed to bits would beat every other heavyweight around very easily, that is why Joshua is now the man!
     
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  12. boxfan99

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    Yes there is a very good reason, Wilder will lose to Whyte and thereby throw away an even bigger payday against Joshua.

    It's the same with Stiverne really, he hasn't fought for ages because he would most likely lose to any half-decent opponent and thereby throw away his mandatory spot against Wilder.
     
  13. Beez

    Beez Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah hayman is the man there. Only reason the Ortiz fight got made of you ask me because it keeps the belt in hayman stable regardless
     
  14. Blancrabello

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    Wilder gets taken to school by Whyte. The fight ain't happening before AJ.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Dibella is a grotesque fat dead tortoise looking grandstanding attention ***** slob, Hearn is a suave, sophisticated English gent/classic leading man material with matinee idol good looks ala Cary Grant, Gregory Peck, Rock Hudson.