Joshua is clearly ducking Fury

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  1. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gotcha. I thought both fighters signed already, seems weird they don't know where it's being held as you'd figure that'd be a key point in the contract lol

    Ah well, guess we'll find out eventually
     
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    On God, some people are gonna actually have to find a hobby when AJ retires, rent free 24/7 in their heads.
     
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  3. Franko_Haggis

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    1) AJ fought Pulev a couple of months after Usyk had beaten Chisora. Usyk chose Chisora as a litmus test so I’m not sure where you’re getting that narrative from. Unless I was living under a rock. But still, you can’t say that he made more fuss than Fury did.

    2) The perception of Usyk doesn’t matter. Not when Fury’s position was “why do I need to fight this middleweight nobody”. I’m not bothered about the perception and the related betting odds. I’m bothered about who ducked Usyk for longer.

    3) Exactly. Fury won 4 rounds in both fights. AJ won about the same in both of his fights. Fury had a solid 3 round stretch in the 1st fight (which granted was the longest spell of success in any Usyk fight at HW to that point) but he also nearly got finished and relied on a paid off ref to get in Usyk’s way constantly to disrupt the finishing sequence. Let’s not forget, Usyk was 21 months older in the first Fury fight than he was in the second AJ fight as well, so Fury had no excuse to not look a bit better than AJ did.

    4) Pulev beat Chisora the first time, and AFTER the AJ fight he had another fight with Chisora that he lost by a razor close SD in London that a lot of people thought he won. Povetkin was on PEDs and was 2 years closer to his prime than he was when he demolished a better version of Dillian Whyte than Fury beat in 2022. And yeah, Ruiz was overweight for the rematch, but he would’ve beaten Chisora that night. Chisora isn’t a world beater.
     
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  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're not addressing any of my points and are relying on conjecture. You seem like a desperate fanboy willing to grasp at straws to try to make a point. Engage with someone else if you want a serious reply.
     
  5. TowelThrower

    TowelThrower Y'all must've forgot Full Member

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    Doesn’t make any sense why would he duck Fury at this point? Who the hell else out there would he have a greater motivation to fight? The only argument you can make is that the belts are split and you can grab one of the easier ones and have another title reign. But then you have Dubois who took him out quite easily and the Hrgovic/Itauma winner, Kabayel and then Gassiev. They’re not exactly clear cut outcomes with this version of Joshua, are they any less formidable than fighting Fury? So fighting a long time target in Fury for a fortune and legacy seems a no brainer.
     
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  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gassiev would be an easy belt to collect, certainly an easier opponent to beat than Fury.
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not a fan of Joshua but he did take on many of the top HWs when became a world champion

    When Fury called out Joshua it was for a fight only around 3 months after the 12 round Usyk loss
    That seems very short notice for a full recovery and training camp.

    Admittedly Joshua and Fury haven't been as active or mixing as much in the top 10 but go back and look at The Ring magazine annual ratings in 2017
    Consider Joshua won his first world title in the middle of 2016

    2017
    Tyson Fury, Champion

    1. Anthony Joshua
    2. Deontay Wilder
    3. Joseph Parker
    4. Alexander Povetkin
    5. Luis Ortiz
    6. Kubrat Pulev
    7. Andy Ruiz Jr.
    8. Dillian Whyte
    9. Dominic Breazeale
    10. Jarrell Miller

    Fury didn't fight at all in 2016 or 2017, so Joshua wouldn't have been able to get that fight then but consider

    Fury, not fighting
    Wilder, decided against the fight
    Parker, Joshua fought
    Povetkin, Joshua fought
    Ortiz, decided against the fight
    Pulev, Joshua fought
    Ruiz, Joshua fought
    Whyte, Joshua fought
    Breazeale, Joshua fought
    Miller, Joshua was due to fight
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More lies
     
  9. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    Fury is living rent free in a whole lot more heads than Joshua is.
     
  10. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    If your name was Pinocchio you would be tripping over your nose.
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why would it be a lie?
    I don't take to him at all for various reasons

    I think because I don't dismiss his achievements, it throws some people. Not sure why as it is a boxing forum and on the subject in hand try and treat equally

    You would be better focusing on the point I made rather than me personally, though that might trouble you to do
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I found that amusing but also interesting how you appear to struggle to differentiate between the person and their achievements
    I don't have that struggle as I am a fan of the sport more than the fighter and appreciate what some do
    It's the reason I admire what Usyk has done for example

    You would be better focusing on the point I made rather than me personally, though that might trouble you to do
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is interesting and might clear up some of the thoughts

    This content is protected
     
  14. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury fought the biggest possible fights? He's been pro for what, 20 years, and has 5 good opponents..
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now list the ages of joshuas opponents lmao