Joshua vs Miller June 1st MSG

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Takam was a late replacement for AJ and the only defence in which he wasn't facing a top ten challenger, Whyte is currently number 4 therefore he is a top ten challenger.FACT
    Parker nearly floored Whyte ,yet he never had AJ in any trouble
    • NB Miller is
      Box Rec no 6
      Ring no 9
      WBA no 3
      WBO no 3
      IBO no 4
      Joshua has already beaten;
      4 of Box rec's top 10
      3 of Ring's top 10
      4 of WBC's top 10
      4 of IBO's top 10

    Here are the score cards for the Joshua vTakam fight."life and death? "lol
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  2. Jojojojo

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    Life and death ? Takam and AJ ?dumbest thing anyone ever thought and you put it in writing !
     
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Change of mind Full Member

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    "Whyte is currently number 4 therefore he is a top ten challenger.FACT "

    LOL ok... kind of makes a difference where you sit on that top 10.. but I guess everyone is a winner in life yeah :D

    "Parker nearly floored Whyte ,yet he never had AJ in any trouble"

    Yeah and Whyte floored Parker, and AJ couldn't.

    "Here are the score cards for the Joshua vTakam fight."life and death? "lol"

    Yeah and the result for Chisora v Takam = KO
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Change of mind Full Member

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    The only thing you need in writing is AJ struggled to KO takam. That is all.
     
  5. Twentyman

    Twentyman Watching Netball with Adam Smith Full Member

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    So Whyte got less than a million for the Parker/Chisora 2 fights? Already pointed this out but you continue with this narrative.

    AJ is favourite against Whyte, without a shadow of a doubt. Along with Wilder he is a devastating finisher. Whyte’s got a big money shot on him too though. I’ve just finished watching AJ v Whyte again, (AJ’s gotta have the best uppercut in boxing btw). Whyte has AJ in serious trouble after he landed that big shot...who knows, if he hadn’t had an injured shoulder he might have been able to capitalise on that because Joshua was hurt big time. I thought Whyte looked fundamentally awful in that fight, the improvements he’s made since are pretty decent including his physique. He didn’t look fit in that fight.

    Like you say, AJ has improved too. I’ve just wrote Whyte off too many times and I believe Whyte could really pose much bigger problems than he did in 2015.
     
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  6. TonyHayers

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    I actually think it was rather overrated at the time how hurt AJ was. Probably because Sky (here's some anti-Sky anti-Matchroom stuff for you which is a shock as I work for both) were frantic for it not to be a total mismatch and had hedged their bets on a rather poor PPV card which was headlined by what everyone thought would be a blowout featuring a guy in Whyte nobody had heard of.

    If you watch it again you'll see AJ is on his toes throwing the jab very soon after he's hit, and there's an argument to say he wins the round. He then definitely wins the next and goes on to dominate.
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes he got less than a million quid for each fight.
     
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    Hattonmad Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good christ it's arguing with itself!
     
  9. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Whyte struggled in the 2 fights with Chisora and many think he lost the 1st fight.
    Chisora would not be a match for AJ. Whyte didn't struggle to stop Allen and Helenius , he didn't manage it at all!

    Do you think both would survive to the end against AJ?
     
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  10. Aydamn

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    If you go back and watch the Chisora rematch you'll see Whyte nearly dropped Chisora in the first bell with an overhand right.

    And several times in the fight he had Chisora hurt but did not follow up.

    Then the KO came. So Whyte dealth with Chisora via KO.

    AJ couldnt deal Takam a KO... and you want to sit there and tell me AJ can KO Chisora.

    Difference is I am not making Whyte to be a god... you make AJ to be invincible and almighty.

    Whyte has poor skills in boxing.. and has his limitations/

    AJ has limitations too and he is not invincible.
     
  11. mcvey

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    I'm not a particular fan of Joshua's. Can he ko Chisora? I would bet that he would ,Haye ko'd a prime version and comparatively light punching Fury stopped him too.
    Chisora is 35 and past his best yet he went life and death with Whyte twice?
    You seem to see what you want to, see instead of what is actually happening. Takam was comprehensively beaten, floored and stopped, the only struggling AJ had was with a broken nose caused by a head butt ,that would tend to impact on anyone's performance!

    • "It was far from a straight-forward night for Joshua in the Principality Stadium as the 28-year-old appeared to suffer a broken nose in the second round after an accidental clash of heads.
    • Takam caught Joshua with some shots but they didn't have enough power to hurt the champion."
    News flash ,nobody is invincible and everybody can be beaten ..
     
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  12. Aydamn

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    Newsflash, this is what a KO looks like, and being floored. Takam was not floored by AJ.

    When you accept this evidence let me know.

    And he Whyte KO'd Chisora too...




    You make Chisora too look bad, but he has taken good fighters the distance... so he is not as bad as you make him to be...


    and so what if he is 35? Wlad, Takam, Povetkin, Ortiz all are over 35 and now Wilder is 34+ what is your point????????????
     
  13. mcvey

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    Chisora is past his prime yes or no? I know what a ko looks like, I boxed and have been watching fights for over 55 years.I also have an extensive fight film library and tons of books on the subject.Taking good fighters the distance doesn't mean diddly squat Dave Allen does that! Getting beat by Agit Kabavel and losing 9 of 38 fights tells the story of Chisora whenever he has stepped up he has been beaten.
     
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  14. Aydamn

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    So Chisoras lack of motivation had nothing to do with his Agit Kabayel fight?

    I don't what prime is?

    Physical prime? That is different for everyone.. when you get older you.lose a bit of speed but you've offset that loss by experience and seasoning.

    Is Wilder past prime? Povetkin?

    They are more than competitive against Fury and AJ who are 5.years younger. Explain that to me with your 60 years experience kind sir.
     
  15. Twentyman

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    Just out of curiosity, why do you think that, bud?