Joshua vs Stiverne, Novemeber ? Mismatch or competitive ??

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Good step up. Plus he knocked out the gut Wilder is defending against.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stiverne ruined himself, won the title off a fatty and became a lazy ass champion, had to cut loads of weight for the Wilder fight which led to his Rhabdomyoysis. He then showed up in even worse shape against Rossy.

    Stiverne is just another US heavy who's eaten himself out of contention. Had he actually trained for Rossy and showed up 15lbs lighter he would have never been dropped and won a comfortable decision and people wouldn't be saying this was a mismatch.

    Stiverne's inactivity is also an issue he hasn't fought since Rossy some 8 months ago, he's been horribly managed.

    By the time he steps in with AJ he will likely been out of the ring for almost a year, be overweight or weight drained and dehydrated and in against the biggest puncher and fundamentally sound fighter he's ever fought.
     
  3. Boxing fan 75

    Boxing fan 75 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure if sticerne is anything more than a gatekeeper at this point. Talent wise he could make it a fight I suppose if he shows up on shape. Otherwise it might as well be a fixed fight. Stiverne can have a nice little run of losing to top fighters for paydays, knocking out cans to hype upcoming fight against top fighters, rise repeat.

    It would shock me if Sticerne ever wins another fight against a top opponent.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stiverne isn't American, but I don't disagree with most of what you said. I can't believe people thought that this guy would beat Wilder :lol:.
     
  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know he's Haitian/Canadian but he's based in Vegas and is a likely to be a US citizen now as he was in the process if becoming a naturalized citizen during the Arreola fights.

    Wilder for all his faults is better than many people expected and he showed a style we hadn't seen before or since, a fast agile Wilder constantly on the move.

    Stiverne always had a punchers chance and showed in the amateurs he could get to big men like David Price. Maybe he could of done better had he bothered to actually train for the fight instead of just rocking up and expecting to KO another hype job.
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    What will the odds be on this one? I wouldn't be surprised if Stiverne will be a 1 in 5 underdog.
     
  7. Don't ever call that son of a ***** an American.
     
  8. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    If Stiverne shows up he wins
     
  9. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only active HW with decent resume is Wladimir Klitschko.
    Povetkin - partly, Haye (mix CW and HW) too...