Impossible to tell. In a different era he wouldn't be at title level yet, Ged be where Wilder was after 22 fights
Um that is my point kid. Just because you beat one fighter one night doesn't mean you are great. So because AJ beat a washed up Wlad doesn't make him great unless you are going to say Corrie Sanders is great for beating a young Wlad. For real? All a man can do is fighter who is in his era? I thought you could fight people who aren't in your era. Wow you are so smart. Your books does not mean anything to people who know boxing. Just because you were champ in a weak era, hand picked your opponents once your chin got exposed doesn't make you great. Wlad fought in a sad era for the heavyweight division and is overrated. Kind of like Joe Louis spent years of his career fighting bums. If fighting bums impresses you then good for you. I told you it isn't impressive so that is that.
Yes and if Femi fights on long enough at a high level, then he is getting chinned and being beaten by younger and fresher fighters. It happens with every generation. So what Femi has done to Pov and Wlad, is going to be done to him assuming he continues fighting on long enough at a high level. Lewis got to that point but retired rather than face the Vitali rematch, he got to the point where would rather retire than fight on against younger and fresher fighters. There was also the Rahman and McCall losses. To the eye, Lewis is a far better fighter than Femi....
Wlad was 25 and had 40 bouts when he lost to Corrie Sanders. If you are going to say he wasn't in his prime then Tyson wasn't in his prime when he fought Douglas so we should give Tyson a pass. Foreman wasn't in his prime when he lost to Ali so we should give him a pass. No fighter who has 40 plus bouts is inexperience and not in their primes. Wlad was in his prime against Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster and if you believe he was young against Purrity then what difference does it make? He was still knocked out by a journeyman fighter. Wlad realized he couldn't take a punch and changed his style. He also hand picked his opponents more carefully and fought the style of jab , jab, right hand and grab against mediocre opponents.
I give Joshua no credit for beating Wlad. He was still almost knocked out by a washed up timid Wlad. Not matter how hard you ( Byu you I mean casual boxing fan, not actually you) believe Wlad punches those same punches couldn't phase a washed up Bigfoot Martin years before this. Joshua, if he has the power people claims he has he would of knocked out Wlad as easy as Corrie Sanders did. But yeah the heavyweight division is still the worse division in boxing.
You don’t choose when you’re born. He’s beating everyone who’s in front of him. You can’t criticise him for that.
Duh of course he would. When Wlad hit his prime he had had about 40-50 fights, of course he would beat a green 18 fight novice Joshua. Have you forgotten that when Wlad had roughly the same amount of fights that Joshua's had he was getting KO'd by journeyman Ross Puritty?
what if what if if only i was born in the 1996 then i would have brought up in an era where even the poor lived like millionairs compared to 1966 when i was born its luck of the draw
You could say the same about the Klitschkos coming along at the of Lennox Lewis's career. Lennox coming along at the end of Mike Tyson's career. Tyson coming along at the end of Larry Holmes' career, Larry Holmes coming along at the end of Muhammad Ali's career and so on and so forth...
Seems like your just rewording my points back at me tbh, I never said Joshua was great for beating Wlad, I said if you're going to call those guys great does that mean Douglas is great for beating Tyson. So does it? No you can't fight people who aren't in your era. Thanks for recognising me as smart though, I do appreciate it. Neither of our books mean anything to anyone but ourselves, as I said this is a subjective sport. Neither of us have the power to label someone an absolute great, we can only decide ourselves if we think they are great based on whatever our criteria is. But yes I class both Wlad and Louis as great. If you don't that's your prerogative.
A joke of a reply from a very new poster, who might have more then one posting ID. Sure Wlad didn't face any punchers! Brewster, Peter 2x, Sanders, Haye, Irbagimov, and Joshua. He also faced a ton of solid hitters in TOS, Povetkin, McCLine et all. What you call " bums " are actually top ting magazine ranked contneders. No more time will I waste with you,
McCline was a big puncher? 41 wins with 24 knockouts says he wasn't. Who did Corrie Sanders knockout besides Wlad? Who did Brewster knockout besides Wlad? Ibragimov was never considered a monster puncher. Peter was good at knocking out 3rd tier fighters. Name one world class elite fighter he knocked out. Also little casual boxing fan Wlad just fought Joshua in his last fight. So I was talking about Wlad not fighting any real punchers before Joshua. But lets say casual boxing fan that McCline was a hard puncher. Did he land his best punches against Wlad? Did Ibragimov land his best punches? The only joke is how casual fans like you love to try to build up your TV heroes. Then get so hurt when somebody types something about the man/males you love. Wlad faced nothing but tomato cans and old men his whole entire career and got put the bed by 3 of those tomato cans.
Hate to admit it but I don't see AJ losing for a every long time, wlad and povetkin were old but he stopped them both which is not easy. Outside of wilder landing a bull**** right hand I don't see AJ losing to anyone. Fury will give him trouble but cannot hurt him, will lose by decision.