Juan Manuel Marquez performance tonight

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  1. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    Some of his punch technique was truly astonishing. He threw a left hook in the 8th round (middle I think) which was absolutely fantastic.
    Also his composure to get the knockout was excellent.
     
  2. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    THis is basically a featherweight we're talking about who has moved up and is knocking out very good Lightweight champions (or past champions). There's really nothing to choose between him and Pac in two fights. Truly a great fighter. I could see him being in my top 100 (if I had one).
    I picked Diaz. My hat is off to Marquez, a great fighter.
     
  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marquez is a true great, he is in a good division but time is not on his side, i hope he secures a couple of really big fights.
     
  4. DINAMITA

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    I think last night was the best win of JMM's career. It was clear early that Diaz, being the natural lightweight, was very strong, and I was a bit surprised at Diaz's accuracy when he flurried with JMM on the ropes. But that only reinforces what a brilliant brilliant win this was for JMM when you consider his composure, resilience, punch variety and power which allowed him to take control and triumph. His use of the uppercut was excellent, and the finish was perfect. Marquez is one of the very best of this era, a colossal fighter, and I cannot wait for the third fight with the Pacman which surely will happen at some point.
     
  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We were watching a great fighter last night. Great performance against a younger, bigger opponent.
     
  6. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great performance from Marquez last night. He went into Diaz's turf and beat the much younger man. Diaz made it a tough fight but Marquez seemed to be in control for most of the match. Marquez is starting to get up there in age so he needs to get all the big fights he can. I'm not sure who he'll fight next but he is doing everything on his end to keep up the demand for another Pacquaio fight.
     
  7. ChrisPontius

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    Which he inflicted himself by a punch.

    I thought this was an amazing fight. Diaz is very solid technically, works extremely hard and makes you fight faster than you want to. Marquez weathered the early storm and took over from round 6 on and even got the stoppage. What a fighter!
     
  8. shadow boxer

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    Fantastic fighter and a fantastic performance. I'd it dead level going into the last round. While I didn't think JMM was ever in big trouble I did score rounds for Diaz based on his effective aggression. However you could see from early on that Marquez was beginning to find his rhythm. What impressed me most was how he adjusted to a pace that he would clearly prefer not to fight at. He was throwing more than he ever did before in any fight.

    He also deserves huge credit for fighting Diaz in his hometown and being the first guy to ever knock him out.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    the 8th round was a boxing lesson and the knockout was brillaint they way he subtely moved his fett to get into position he was doing that all night
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    Wonderful punching technique and countering but **** POOR Defense. It was really a battle of who had the worse defense and Diaz won that prize

    This 1 could be fight of the year but Marquez took needless punches in there, Diaz wasn't working Marquez over because of size, he was doing it because of speed, intensity and forward movement although his defense was ever worse. When Marquez started using laterial movement he could control the fight and time shots better, Diaz also shot his load a bit early

    The commentators were off though, Marquez was doing better early than given credit for

    Now Chris John really looked a throwback last night, very reminicent of Salvador Sanchez or Buchanon, just did everything so well
     
  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i liked Joh i had his score abit wide at 8 to john but it was never a draw

    marquez has deterioted abit with age i noticed this at the start his reflexes arnt as sharp as i noticed he tried head movement alot in the 3rd and started getting hit abit as he didnt move as quick as he used too. Also i thought he was a bit slower at countering he took abit longer to throw the counter and let Diaz off a few times after making him miss. But his ability to adapt and his power are the best i have saw him at. also he never betrayed he was hurt once even with jelly legs at one point.

    i thought his footwork was so balanced and poised he was never off balance. sound fundamentals and his left uppercut a thing of buaety
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree with this. I was more impressed with Marquez's heart than anything else tonight. He took a LOT of shots and whilst he had some good technique on his punches he was lucky he was fighting a guy with no punch and no real mental strength (or defense as PP pointed out). Unraveled again when he got cut.

    I think age is starting to catch up with Marquez, the level he has shown at lightweight isn't what it was at 126 and 130, and should he face a very good lightweight it will probably be his undoing. Luckily, there aren't any around at the moment by the looks of things, so he could carry out an ok reign at lightweight.

    He should stay the HELL away from Mayweather though imo.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    just been in the general forum the amount of nut hugging is unbelieveable i see hes everyones P4P 1 now.

    until Hatton-Pacman
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Marquez isn't taking more punches at lightweight than he did at super-featherweight. Against Barrera and the Pacman rematch he was in wars as well. His defense has been like this since around 2006. He's becoming more flat-footed and throwing more power punches.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I never said thats what you said. I simply followed up on your post and gave my opinion that Marquez was being more vulnerable while on the ropes.