Juan Manuel Marquez performance tonight

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Could of been that round, only watched it once, so may treat myself to another viewing off the V+ box, im off to eat burgers and watch the fight again
     
  2. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Burger Boy, enjoy the fight. :good
     
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    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly......I've rewatched this fight twice already just to examine JMM's defense and how much Diaz was really being effective in those early rounds.....

    .....an though Diaz landed some good shots with his hook, must of the two fisted flurries that Diaz was throwing was not being as effective at the HBO commentating crew would have the audience believe.
    .....alot of those shots were either glancing, were being slipped, ducked, and or blocked.....
    ....while JMM's counters were getting in just as frequently and with better precision and authority.


    There's a few in this thread discrediting JMM's defense for being worst off than normal for him.....I dont agree for the points I've already made......but I'd also like to add, and I dont know how many of you noticed......but being that the fight was in Diaz hometown.....I noticed that the ring was set up as small as it could be to accomodate both Diaz and Juarez who fought on the undercard against Chris John......

    Personally being a JMM fan, I would have liked for JMM to have used a little bit more movenment and not be backed against the ropes as much as he was....

    ......but the small ringsize I believe made it very difficult for JMM to move laterally at an angle wider that needed to be in order to avoid Diaz backing him up to those ropes.....

    .....so if you take into account the small ringsize....JMM's performance becomes even more impressive, in that he was able to adjust his game plan to suit ring conditions and deal with a fighter who style was perfectly suited to the size of that ring......
    ......I'd like to hear some thoughts from some of you on the matter of the ring size......did any of you notice it?
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Divac. I did notice the ring size, especially from the corner post, the standing height view camera. The ring must have been around 18ft or thereabouts. I actually clocked this at the time of the fight, but your post just brought my initial thought flooding back.

    Marquez's defense was decent considering the type of fight he was involved in. What other world class fighter would be able to stand his ground often and not get clipped ocassionally in a fierce battle? Hardly any at all. Fighters like Barrera, Arguello, Pryor, Morales, etc, wouldn't have showed better defense. Certainly not vastly anyway. SS said Marquez's heart impressed him the most. I can say without question, Marquez wasn't taking flush punches round after round for his heart to be truly tested. At no point in the bout could anyone say to themselves "how is Marquez staying on his feet with these punches, he can't stay up for much longer". He was briefly wobbled with a left hook during the second round, but apart from that his defense was pretty much standard procedure for the type of fight he and Diaz fought.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good

    I noticed the ringsize at the very first round of the Juarez-John fight.......

    .....when John who's a slick boxer could'nt avoid getting cornered by a slow plodding Juarez.....I said to myself, "this JMM-Diaz fight is going to be more interesting that I initially thought it would."
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    And if you want to see a showing recently when a fighter took enough punches over the course of a fight for his heart to be impressive, Froch's against Pascal. And his defense was far worse than Marquez's. Thats a showing when it springs to mind "heart impressed me the most".