Juan Marquez - Potential Top 100 P4P?

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  1. Flea Man

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    Agreed. I think the win over Casa was as good as say.......McGuigans win over Pedroza. Regardless, Marquez stopped Casa as no one had managed before. he then became the first man to stop Diaz, who had looked half-decent decisioning Katsidis a few months before.

    I think Marquez's lightweight tenure was pretty impressive, considering he only moved up in weight to chase Pacman rather than out of necessity.
     
  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh come on Flea! :-(
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yikes...yeah I cant really agree there flea.

    But I can picture you thought process...which would have been just quickly plucking something out of your head...so I understand why you hastily came to that conclusion.

    Still though.....That Afghani resin should be finished by now surely. :D
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Yep, no doubt. First ageing fighter I could think of................:lol:

    Any valid examples of what it could be like? Pryor over Cervantes?

    Basically am at work so gotta think AND type ASAP :good
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    I feel geuinely basful now.............what a silly comparison. Feel stupid cause I ain't even stoned :rofl Could be worse I could be BoxingGloves1
     
  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Sure, nice wins by their standards. But when judging a fighter's merit in the face of the all time greats they are pretty much meaningless.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    More articulate then I could describe it, my exact feelings on it though.
     
  8. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put him in a top 100 if you want.
     
  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he had two clean victories over Pacquiao would you feel it would be warranted?
     
  10. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say it's closer to Alfredo Layne vs. Wilfredo Gomez myself.

    I.e. Aging fighter clearly past his best who has managed to keep the title due to a dodgy decision in the recent past (Lockridge robbery) and being finally toppled by a guy giving an earnest if unspectacular effort.

    What makes Marquez's win 'good' is that he himself was aging and that he was moving up in weight for the fight. But in terms of a pure lightweight performance, it was not so good. So sure I agree that it was a 'good' effort by Marquez, but within the context of where he was at in his career, not per se.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    That's why you're one of the best posters on here and I'm not:good
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're probably being sarcastic, but if you're not, then that's bull****. :good

    I've got as many ****ed up theories as the next person, e.g. B-Hop-Winky was a draw, DLH beat Mayweather etc. :D
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Nah, not being sarcastic, at least you back up your theories with scorecards/reasoning.

    I just jump in with both feet sometimes (once said I thought Prime Tyson would stop Clay in four rounds :patsch) to get my point across in a quick and concise fashion. Usually without reason:lol:
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Neither one of those is particularly obscure a viewpoint. :nono
     
  15. essexboy

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    They bloody well should be though. Maybe not Hopkins-Wright but Mayweather-De la Hoya.