Judge who scored for Shumenov

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  1. jehu

    jehu Member Full Member

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    settle down bud, we all see how good you are at scoring a fight.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Apparently he has the lowest Pod Index ranking of all international judges and should actually be put out. But it'll never ****ing happen.
     
  3. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    For the sake of naming and shaming him here's the name again: GUSTAVO PADILLA.
    What a biatsh.
     
  4. jehu

    jehu Member Full Member

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    This is what the judge himself says about scoring a round taken from the wba website that he seems well connected to.

    How to evaluate a round, by Gustavo Padilla
    Por Luis Pabón 15/07/2013

    “This time the content of this blog is the transcription of a work written by the WBA International Official, Gustavo Padilla, who also sits on the Ratings Committee. The information is related to the scoring of the rounds.

    I hope you like it.”

    These guidelines are meant for the beginner, the fan and the professional boxing judge. It has five (5) areas to be scored in a round, and, weather it is a championship fight or not, we should take them into consideration.

    Needless to say that in Professional and amateur boxing the main goal is to connect effective blows (knuckles) to the opponent and get hit; however, these blows should land to the vulnerable body area to be scored as legal blows. This vulnerable area goes vertically from head to the waist -front and sides of the body-; this means an imaginary line from the navel to the part of hip (iliac Crest).

    The five areas to be scored in a round are: Effectiveness, Attack, Defense, Technique and Sportsmanship.

    Effectiveness: It is the ultimate end of boxing, to connect the opponent with the most effective blows in the vulnerable area strongly to be scored.

    ATTACK: It is the effective aggressiveness showed a boxer during the fight.

    DEFENSE: The Boxer must be able to neutralize the attack of its opponent.

    TECHNIC: It is the stamina, skill, and courage demonstrated by a boxer to solve any difficult situations that may arise during the fight, as well as his ability to force his opponent to the way that suits him. Here is where we can tell whether a Boxer is stylist or puncher.

    SPORTSMANSHIP: Here we find the positive and negative aspects that should be taken into consideration at the final scoring. In the positive we find when a boxer does not hit the other when is defenseless. Among the negative is that one of the boxers runs away from the fight, clinch too much, or does not fight clean, making fouls that needs the referee attention, when he deliberately throws illegal punches after the bell rings ending the round, when he holds the rope with one hand or use them to bounce, that he ignores the referee orders.
    These are the only five (5) points to every judges should keep in mind when he evaluates a round, however, they must be accompanied by skill and concentration to write down what really happened in the three (3) minutes of fight.
     
  5. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It seems the judge was not paying attention to the volume of punches Shumenov was waisting with his verbal add to them and to the fast accurate counters Hopkins was connecting clean on this guy. It happens even for guys with 20 plus years of judging experience because the old fox rotates and gives little to no space for you to shoot at but to the body, gets easily out of corners and is able to control the guy who is leading with his front foot. Probably the guy saw those first 3 rounds and just realized something was happening when Hopkins countered a left hand faking a jab and a low left guard with that overhand, kinda right hand swimming stroke that tagged Shumenov and sent him down. Too late for the judge to recalculate his thinking.
     
  6. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :shock::lol::lol::lol:

    Waaaay too close! Old man Hopkins adds another Father's Day card and gift to the pile each year as yet another young fighter has to call him dad from now on!
     
  7. Peterp

    Peterp Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Corrupt judge bought by the bookies. A split decision v Unanimous decision makes a HUGE difference to the bookies
     
  8. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Shumenov is also a promotor. He probably demanded to have one of the judges be chosen by him. So he just paid that judge 100,000 dollars and got himself a nice "split" decision, so he can tell his grandchildren one day that he got "robbed" in the fight. Better than having to say you got beat up by a 50-year-old!
     
  9. Ezzard Charles

    Ezzard Charles Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the calzaghe **** was because the 'racist' **** b-hop said....

    judges had an agenda... the one black judge scored it correctly the other two for calzaghe of which both were white and one was italian.
     
  10. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
    LOL. It's sounds insane, but Shumenov is a lawyer and that is how they really think.
    Could be possible. :yep
     
  11. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Scorecards like these and CJ Ross' in Floyd-Canelo are proof of corruption. You simply can't be that bad at judging and find yourself scoring fights at that level.

    Incidentally, anyone who thinks Shumenov won or Floyd-Canelo was "close" should resist them temptation to ever score a fight again. By all means, keep watching boxing and enjoy it but don't even think about picking up a pen during the action. Don't even try to keep score in your head - it's not for you.
     
  12. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal Nice earning for judges.
     
  13. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You got it right. Sometimes people will try and sneak some bull**** through but you caught it.:lol:
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why are people still so down about Hopkins losing to Calzaghe? It was 6 years ago, get over it and stop being so insecure about Calzaghe.
    I can only think that Hopkins fans are upset about Calzaghe because of the way Calzaghe took over and made Hopkins look for time out, but please get over it, Hopkins has gone on to have a good career. Once Calzaghe retired Hopkins was able to get to the top again and his fans should be pleased that Calzaghe retired so that he could do that.
     
  15. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nice logic. So the one black judge "got it right". Ever think maybe she had an agenda? Still can't believe people think Hopkins won that fight. He knocked Calzaghe down, won 3 more rounds, and that is all she wrote. He was badly outworked and tried to find a way out.