Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Shane Mosley @ 135

Guys i have to go with mosley here by close majority decision. I think Mosley would be too crafty to get koed by Chavez, however at times Mosley likes to trade so it will keep the bout interesting. If he works his combinations i feel it would be enough to frustrate Chavez. Gut feeling tells me it would somewhat similar to Hagler Vs Leonard. I would not bet on this fight

 

Just to settle this, Mosley is NOT faster than Taylor and he doesn't fight as well off the backfoot. He is no Pernell Whitaker either. Chavez would beat him.

 

Mosley has a pretty good chin that would help him, and he had great speed. I think he would use his speed which isn't better than Taylors (Meldrick) to outbox Chavez. I would say about 8-4.

 

Nice post

 

To say they aren't comparable is ridiculous. Show me footage of a ten punch combo in a second. Zab and Roy are both extremely fast, especially when zab lets his hands go and when roy throws combinations more conventionally. From the footage I have seen of Taylor I haven't been convinced he is faster then either of these guys. I fully admit though I haven't seen great amounts of Taylor apart from his major fights, so any footage highlighting his speed would be appreciated.

 

@ 135, gotta go with Mosley by UD

 

I saw a few of his fights and yes he is fast however i have not seen a ten punch combo either. Even IF Mosley is not as fast as Taylor, he was still fast enough to overwhelm Chavez with combinations.

 

10 punch combo in a second :nono he wasn't that dayum fast. If that's the case, he should have beat everybody he fought.

 

Chavez by late TKO, slowly dismantling him until the ref calls it for Mosley.

 

i doubt this guy has seen taylor fight, he is going by things that he has heard.

 

This truly would've been a treat. Prime4Prime at 135, I like Chavez by close UD.

 

In fact Mosley used to spar with Chavez at some point.

I see a clear UD for Mosley in this fight.
Mosley was too strong for 135..remember he went 8(8)-0 in title defenses and was considered the most dominant champ since Duran. He had power, speed and debilitating body punching.

Chavez had a great chin and an equally effective bodypunching stlye. Both never took a backward step but Chavez had issues with speedsters and I see a similar fight to Taylor-Chavez I, only with Mosley winning on points.

Remember, even Taylor was able to stay right in front of Chavez for twelve rounds - only that Mosley has a far better chin than Taylor.

 

Correct.

Rubbish he does. Who is the best fighter Mosley has stopped? An old Vargas and an old Molina.

Not by all that much imo. Mosley just stacked himself with muscle to get up to 154. In terms of frame and bones, I wouldn't say he was much bigger than Chavez.

His best display happened at 135. That's wher ehe was at his best imo.

Chavez was offset by Taylor's workrate more than he his speed imo. It wasn't merely Taylor's speed that kept Chavez puzzled, it was the fact that he punched pretty much non stop. He would have no such problem with Mosley, who does not have the workrate that Taylor has. Chavez would welcome a guy that throws as many punches as him, irrespective of their speed, and Mosley is no Taylor in that department either.

But Pernell also had superb infighting skills which allowed him to hurt Chavez and block or evade Chavez's retaliating shots. Mosley is no where near as educated on the inside and if he fights Chavez there he will be catching plenty more than Pernell did.

Wear Chavez down from the outside? How?

As I said, I don't think Shane is more powerful either. On the contrary, I think he packs less power.

Chavez has a better chin, he has a better body attack, he has a better defense, he has more precise punches and more power than Shane.

 

Spot on.

 

This a good post, but don't spoil it by disrespecting me.

On your points:

True that Mosley is not a combination puncher that Taylor was but those combos Taylor threw, though crisp, never hurt Chavez. Imagine if it was Mosley who was able to land flush like that.
My point is what Mosley lacked in combination punching (which isn't much) he would make it up with power - enough to discourage Chavez.

Workrate is not enough against harder punchers (see Taylor-Norris), especially if your chin is suspect. Mosley had a great workrate at 135. He only got problems when he started carrying more weight (147)...so he was no slouch at 135.

I raised the sparring issue as a hint, not as who would win - I never saw the footage.

On Mosley's chin..there's no way Chavez can shake Mosley like he did Taylor.