Just read this about Choc on ESPN

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  1. Kegsy

    Kegsy Lights Out Full Member

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    11 years or so:patsch:patsch

    I think u have just gone to a whole new level of nuthugging...
     
  2. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Look mate, your usual MO whenever someone disagrees with you or insults you is to get all wordy and start writing essays.

    Admit it mate, you have even less of an idea of exactly what Mundine intends to do than someone making a guess, yet you post on here as if you've got inside info.

    You post nothing new, yet you seem to think constantly emphasising the fact that Mundine is rematching Soliman to get exposure in the US is somehow exclusive inside knowledge. Perhaps fighting Bika would get him even more exposure, since Bika actually won The Contender? :lol:

    You never mentioned Mundine moving down to MW, yet no doubt every post you write from now on will mention it, because you think repetition of a fact makes it look like you knew it all along.

    Give it a break, Mundine's pussying out of a rematch with Kessler at the end of the day - no need for you to write essays in his defence, or get your knickers in a twist because people bag him - he brings it on himself, he doesn't need you to leap to his defence every time someone says something less than complimentary about him :thumbsup
     
  3. Sox

    Sox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not on your life, it ain't a sure thing for him.
    Yep, this is what it's all about, Mundine doesn't want anything to do with Kessler, simply because he has no way of winning.

    Rick.
     
  4. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    6th April (6 days ago) 7:02pm

    Post 99# Mundine - Kessler II. How likely......
     
  5. dwilson

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    Yep he wants to step down to middle weight to fight legends such as Pittman and Cropton. Choc is a true warrior.
     
  6. Lead Right

    Lead Right Active Member Full Member

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    Whats wrong with fighting at 43-44 years old?

    Age is just a number man.
     
  7. pecks

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    Mundine's main strengths (his reflexes and speed) will have slowed down a lot well before he reaches that age. He's not exactly heavy chinned either.

    I believe Mundine wont get much better than how he is now. His only chance at getting better is by experience imo. He'll probably start to decline in 2 years or less, that is if he isn't already on the decline. It's hard to measure when he faces guys like Clavero and Hamden.

    He does kepe his age well in a sporting sense, but you have to remember that speed and reflexes are the first thing to go when you're on the decline.
     
  8. oztriker

    oztriker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are just too stupid to even bother with FFS:patsch
     
  9. oztriker

    oztriker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    GOD....You are a total ****WIT....

    Pretending you have inside ****ing knowledge...

    I posted this in June last year.... and most of it is verifiable if you want to bother googling it.

    FACT: Mundine only won 2 rounds on the Judges scorecards against Kessler.

    FACT: Mundine has ducked Kessler on at least 2 occasions.

    FACT: Best you stick to ****ing chickens...It's what you do best.

    Inside the head of Khoder Nasser
    Personally.......I regard Nasser as a lying, unethical son of a *****, but I have to admit that he has handled Mundine brilliantly from a Business viewpoint. So I thought I might take you guys for a journey through the machinations of the mind of this twisted individual........

    It is May 2006 ........shortly after the Green fight and Nasser is a worried man....... He knows that Mundine has a Mandatory due against Kessler and this is not a fight that he wants to risk at this stage.......but there seems to be no other option. He either takes the fight or Mundine drops maybe 5 places in the rankings.

    Then out of the blue...... a lifeline from Team Palle.........Kessler has requested a postponement of his fight with Mundine so that he can fight Marcus Beyer (the WBC Champion) in a unification bout.
    If Nasser agrees, then Palle will guarantee that Mundine will get a shot at the Unified Title....... It will work like this....... Kessler fights Beyer in a Unification Bout........The winner will then defend the Title against the WBC Mandatory in Andrade........The winner of that bout to defend the Unified Title against Mundine.

    Nasser wastes no time in agreeing to the deal knowing that If Kessler wins, under WBA regs, he will be promoted to Unified Champion by the WBA leaving Mundine to fight either Lacy or Soliman for the Secondary Title. (He believes a fight against either, is more winnable than a fight against Kessler)
    If Kessler perchance loses, Mundine will then fight either Beyer or Andrade which he regards as an easier option.

    Also Nasser realises, that in the event of a Kessler victory, under WBA regs, Mundine would have 18 months minimum before he was obligated to fight Kessler.

    Time passes....... Kessler does as expected and Unifies the Title and makes his first obligatory defence against Andrade in March 2007.

    While Kessler is fighting Beyer it gives Nasser a chance to get some more spending money for Mundine by fighting a real tomato can in Acosta......

    While Kessler is defending his Title........ Mundine fights Soliman in the same month......... A fight that Nasser believes is much easier than the Kessler option.
    There was no real neccessity for Mundine to fight Soliman as Kessler was obligated to fight Mundine already and in fact Mundine was risking a loss against Soliman (unlikely.......but a risk nevertheless)
    Why would Mundine fight for a Secondary Title when he was already guaranteed a shot at the Unified Title?
    The answer is obvious........ At no stage did Nasser intend for Mundine to risk a Kessler fight until all options had been exhausted.
    He can bleat about the money all he likes, but he never had any intention of enforcing the contract with Team Palle.

    Nasser hurriedly arranges a fight against another Tomato can in Nievas...........again more spending money for no real risk.

    Palle contacts Nasser to arrange the fight...... Nasser disputes the money offerred by Palle, knowing full well that if he wanted to enforce the Kessler option then he could force a Purse Bid.
    Palle was in no position to enforce the fight with Mundine as it wasn't a WBA Mandatory but an arrangement between the 2 parties.

    Nasser now has the breathing space that he wants for Mundine.

    Mundine will not have to meet Kessler for 18 months.......21 months if Kessler defeats Calzaghe.

    If Calzaghe should dethrone Kessler, then Mundine will again have 21 months before he has to risk a fight with Calzaghe.

    It's a win......win situation........

    Nasser having knocked back the option twice to fight Kessler can now continue to line up Tomatoe Can opponents for Mundine, and Mundine can continue to count his money.

    If you don't mind......I'd like to get outside of Nasser's head now........it isn't very pleasant in here.....kinda seedy.....This guy is one sick ****er.:admin


    The fact is that Mundine has turned down 2 chances to fight Kessler for recognised Titles in the last 12 months........You tell me the reason.:scaredas:
     
  10. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because he is smart...better making lots of $ with less risk and wait for a big fight he can win.
     
  11. Dojo

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    Which espn atricle is it in. Can't find it.:huh
     
  12. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was reading a big article it was on the side ill try to find it for ya mate!
     
  13. THN

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    Mundine sucks. I understand he avoids Kessler, but all the bul**** about beeing no. 1 pfp. makes me puke.
     
  14. VIP

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    The only reason he should move down to 160 is for fights with either Winky or Pavlik.
     
  15. Kegsy

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    I agree Oz mate no point even bothering with him.