**...just to throw a little gas on the fire-other than Pantera-who else Pavlik beat**

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  1. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yes, but I think its evident that Pavlik doesnt possess the boxing skills of Taylor. Maybe before the Bhop fight Taylor was fighting similar competition, but thats when all the hype surrounding him was going on, because he was blowing guys out, just as Pavlik has. Now that he has stepped up to the elite fighters of the divison, he is showing his inexperience, not his inabilities, but his inexperience. To me Pavlik hasnt stepped up to this level yet, and the fact that Taylor has, and has Steward in his corner, is going to be a big advantage come fight night. Personally I dont think Pavlik has the skills of Taylor anyway, but we will see next week.
     
  2. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think a resume of Miranda, Zertuche, and McKart is almost equal to Taylor's pre-title resume of Edouard, Joppy, and R. Marquez. Pavlik is worthy of a shot.
     
  3. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Taylor is troubled by boxers who are hard to hit but Pavlik is not that type of fighter. I think he is tailor made for taylor and will be the champs first "good" title defense in that they are both the same type of tall brawler.

    Taylor should look better against Pavlik than he has against Wright, Spinks, and even Hopkins, who are all hard to hit.
     
  4. BIGTIMETIMMY

    BIGTIMETIMMY ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    boxers do not automatically get thrown into title contention they work there way there and pavlik earned his shot by beating miranda who mark my words will be a future champ
     
  5. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    All I am saying is this: This is the first defining fight for Pavlik and JT had a number of them...now will be an adavantage ...I say yes, can Pavlik overcome I say yes also....like I mention I am not a JT fan, but I get tire of people not recognizing that he took BHop and WW to the limits...and to say he was given the discions is ludicrous ...can Pavlik win absolutely he has the power and he height to deal with JT....plus as I mentioned Dibella kept JT protected from punchers up to this fight...
     
  6. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Bronco, Zuniga, Zartuche and Miranda, sure is not bad but is not BHop twice, WW, Kassim Ouma and Corey Spinks......

    Pavlik could be beat, can JT kepp him of balance, sure, he will need to have his jab working for 12 rounds, costantly, he will need to threw 30 to 40 jabs a round....can he do that...all depends on his conditioning...will Emanuel have him do this...I can;t see any other way in keeping Pavlik off balance.....if he can do this effectively for 12 rounds he could retain his title, if not he will get KO around the 10 or 11 or 12th by acculumation of punches...can he tire Pavlik and take care of him by them end of the fight, sure....but again his jab will be the key....
     
  7. PolishPummler

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    There was a time when Bernard could have used the same line on Taylor.
     
  8. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have been saying KP's opponents are better than JT's before he fought B-Hop for the belt. However you would rate these fighters skills, which I believe are better than above avg, it has been the way KP won those fights. He put Zertuche in coma. He hit Bronco with a hook to the body that made him crumble. He was knocked down by Zuniga, but then went on to dominate for a late stopp age. He bounced Pierre around the ring like he owned him. He completely dismantled Miranda. Most of these fighters have never touched the canvas, let alone been knocked in the manner they were KO'ed. He may be fighting B-level competition, but he is dipsosing of them like B-level comp. :deal
     
  9. pipe wrenched

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    :good Bingo.
     
  10. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    well it all doesn't matter cause the truth will be revealed in 5 days time!

    pavlik by ko - the moment taylor leaves himself open to a good combo.

    i will enjoy reading the board a few weeks and months later down the track when people start saying

    "taylor was not really any good to begin with. b-hop was ancient and hbo simply gave taylor gift after gift, blah blah blah"

    is what everyone will say who was once a taylor fan.

    some people have no character :yep
     
  11. lefthook31

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    If Pavlik KO's Taylor, he will definitely get his props from me. I like the guy a lot, but I think he will be beaten rather easily this weekend.