Just watched Cotto Clottey- Ref

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  1. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    The ref didnt see it. When it happened he had tripped over the camera man. He said to Clottey "ok you slipped" he did not see that Cotto slammed him down.
     
  2. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, it was Cotto.
     
  3. nikolai

    nikolai Guest

    Cotto won by 1 or 2 points.Close fight but only because of the cut.

    Cotto is a tough mutha****a.
     
  4. Vengeance

    Vengeance Certified Headhunter Full Member

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    The guy running away the whole night, who landed fewer punches, landed them at a lesser percentage, got hit by the cleaner, more effective punches the whole night, and the guy who clearly was more hurt throughout the night... won the fight? Ok.....

    If you want to say Cotto outboxed Clottey, maybe I'd accept that. But he didn't win the FIGHT.
     
  5. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on what that idiot PaulFV says presumably?

    Garbage – I’ve watched that replay several times and not once noticed the ref unable to see the action. Anyway, what the ref says goes – he could have deducted several points from Clottey for constantly leading with his head, but he didn’t.

    He was letting them fight a rough, physical fight – nothing wrong with that. Clottey’s just a big jessie. Happy with the rough stuff until it comes back at him. I wish they had stopped the fight and Clottey could cry how unfair it was but he’d know that his cheating style had backfired on him.
     
  6. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Last I checked, winning on the scorecards IS winning the fight or maybe you’ve come up with some new definition of winning. You don’t get a moral victory for hurting the other guy if you don’t win convincingly.

    Cotto fought through an awful cut and used mobility to make sure he didn’t get stopped on account of it

    Clottey tried every avenue to have a point deducted or a DQ administered

    Clottey used that “fall” as a way to get out a fight he wasn’t dealing with well

    Clottey, even with a badly wounded foe who couldn’t see the right hands coming, couldn’t land **** all that was putting Miguel down

    Cotto was always working and making Clottey chase him, that looks good in terms of ring generalship

    Clottey seemed to be under the same impression as you that a cut foe and him backing off wins the fight – it doesn’t. Without the cut, Cotto would have battered Clottey around the ring. Almost every round would have been like round 6.
     
  7. Vengeance

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    I already said Cotto won on the cards of two judges. Not disputing that. But he didn't win the fight. You're gonna tell me 116-111 was acceptable? That is awful judging. He got some favorable judging. Doesn't mean he won.

    A draw would've been fair. It would also setup a well-deserved rematch.
     
  8. digger

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    it should be a draw
     
  9. digger

    digger Member Full Member

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    yes a rematch would be much better :good
     
  10. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Geez, I'm surprised at how many people had 9-9 rounds rounds when scoring that fight. No wonder half you people come up with such ridiculous scorecards.. because you all have no ****ing clue how to score a fight in a 10 point must system! :patsch

    Although I must say this guy takes the ****ing cake. Most lame scoercards I've seen had that score for only the first round, but this guy has a total of four 9-9 rounds in a fight that had no points taken away therefore there can be no such rounds scored that way in this fight! The absolute ignorance of some of you so-called boxing fans surpises me. :verysad
     
  11. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This isn't amateurs where you win the fight by more punches.... everytime Cotto would move he would stick Clottey with the jab and put together a combination. It's called strategy
     
  12. Shattered Glass

    Shattered Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, I have already ripped this post with precise logic and reasoning. No surprise there is no reply. This guy is a full blown HUGGER.
     
  13. triplehknls

    triplehknls New Member Full Member

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    Your handle should be no point made.

    Round 6 was a huge round for Cotto. His most dominant round.
     
  14. sonyt

    sonyt Member Full Member

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    114-113 Cotto win
     
  15. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    i think the decider was the first rd off balance knockdown. it didnt hurt clottey but it happened. clottey was going to need two of his own to win the fight. 114-113 is how it went down for sure. the one judge that scored it 116-111 for cotto must have had martini's consistently throughout the fight. clottey seemed a lot busier after he crippled cotto with the head butt. i would like to see a rematch.