Just watched Mayweather v Castillo I (twice)

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  1. TFFP

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    Fitzgerald in being completely unable to post anything objective regarding Floyd Mayweather shocker
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You can't just throw terms together. Furtermore, the HBO commentators scored the fight for JLC. Anyway, no way in hell Castillo "clearly" won this fight, that's flat out ridiculous.
     
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    Not surprisingly, everyone is criticising Fitz's 115-111 scorecard. However, two judges also scored it 115-111, and one scored it 116-111. In addition, many ring side observers also scored the fight, by a relatively wide margin, for Mayweather. Does anyone think it's possible that professional judges who were watching the fight ringside were better able to see who was landing the better punches than people watching on T.V?

    This fight was similar to Mosley/Hoya II where the judges and the ringside observers saw a different fight than T.V viewers. Unless someone is going to tell me that all 3 judges as well as ringside observers were all in on a conspiricy to screw over Castillo, I don't see the big controversey in this fight.
     
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    I remember watching the fight and wondering what fight the commentators were watching. Castillo would throw shots that mostly missed and PBF was countering and getting the cleaner and more effective punches on the inside. This was one of the fights where PBF demonstrated hiow well he could fight on the inside.

    This was similar to when the scores to the ODLH fight were read and it ended up a SD rather than the actual UD for PBF that it should have been.

    Just because someone wants their guy to win or the other guy to lose does not make things come out that way.
     
  5. kg0208

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    Is it possible? Yes.

    That doesn't make it any less possible that the majority of the fans who booed the decision, and the ones who scored it watching on their screens at home for Castillo saw it correctly. I also don't believe that ringside observers had a clearer view since we can see from different angles and the judges are often blocked by the fighters from their view point.

    Conspiracy? No. But that doesn't mean it can't be one of the many fights that were close and should have gone the other way. Judges have been wrong before.
     
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    Judges have also been right before. And they have been right a whole lot more than they have been wrong. I have no problem with someone saying that they scored the fight for Castillo. However, to pull out terms like robbery and to claim that Castillo clearly won is ridiculous. Floyd arguably won the first 5 rounds and least 4 out of the first 5 rounds. So basically, Mayweather would've had to have done next to nothing after round 5 for Castillo to get a clear victory. However, anyone with two eyes and a brain knows that wasn't the case.
     
  7. kg0208

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    Regardless, the fact that judges are fallible means that you can't dismiss a large portion of boxing fans who felt they were wrong since they have proven entirely capable of making mistakes.

    You have a problem with someone saying Castillo won clearly. People here are stating that they have a problem with Fitzgerald saying Mayweather won clearly. So whats the issue? Mayweather clearly won 4 of the first 5 rounds. Castillo clearly won at least 4 of the last 7 rounds. So if you have a problem with people claiming Castillo won clearly, then I can see others having issue with someone saying Mayweather won clearly.
     
  8. Toopretty

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    That is complete bull****. He gave Castillo round 3 or 4 I think. Floyd was running the #s then.
     
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    And? I never said every round he gave Mayweather should have gone to Castillo. I just said he gave rounds to Mayweather that should have gone to Castillo.
     
  10. TroubleLurks

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    Almost as bad as your 115-113 Oscar vs Forbes card.:roll:
     
  11. zarathustra84

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    You use such absurd arguments. In this case I'm going to focus on this particular one. Being tired after a fight indicates a loser? Of course he was tired, he had just... you know... BOXED 12 rounds. Not to mention I have no idea how being tired after 12 rounds of boxing have anything to do with scoring a round? Did you not score the rounds until after the fight and you had time to assess this?

    Or do you just make up **** to explain why you think Floyd is actually God's new chosen son and after beating Oscar and Hatton a few more times he will be lifted up to the heaven's by God where he will defeat Jesus in a 12 round decision in which he was never hurt, dominated the entire fight and then take is rightful place at God's right hand?

    My money is on the second.
     
  12. Toopretty

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    Floyd won that fight, period. It was his closest fight and the only time he dropped consecutive rounds and b/c we are used to seeing him beat guys clearly they give Castillo extra brownie points. Kind of like Tarver/Jones 1. However Lennox was robbed against Holyfield. Castillo only won 4 rounds clear Floyd won 5 in my book. The other depends on what you like and who is scoring. **** that dumb ass compubox as Floyd was rolling majority of Castillos smothered non damaging work.
     
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    No doubt that Castillo took over the second half of the fight landing more frequently, cleaner and harder.
    .....the body punishment that Mayweather was taking was wicked.

    My scorecard however went to Mayweather.
    Castillo just had too much respect for Mayweather's speed and quickness early on.
    On my card, Mayweather swept the first 5 rounds without so much as a fight back from Castillo.

    Castillo did'nt really start to fight untill the last minute of the 5th round.

    Although Castillo took the the second half of the fight clearly. His slow start cost him.
    I dont have my scorecard memorized, but I gave Mayweather the first 5 rounds and two other rounds along the way.

    People who say that Castillo got robbed, probably have the latter half of the fight etched more freshly in their mind, and forget the good work Mayweather did through the first 5 rounds.
     
  14. DoumB

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    I have a problem with the floyd boys who cant possibly think floyd can loose, sorry but sometimes (quite often) the judges have it wrong, and when the majority of the boxing public with the decision, wether u like it or not, I felt, the majority of boxing experts and fans felt floyd lost that fight, howver, I feel floyd is a better boxer and he proved it in their rematch, and for the Tito fight, I think theres no need to even talk about it cause we all know the wrong decision came out that night.
     
  15. D-MAC

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    I had Castillo winning a close decision, but it wasn't a robbery.