Kazakh boxers

there probebly on decent money in Kazackstan and also the WSB money on top of that.

Also i doubt golden boy or top rank, matchroom are interested in signing Kazakhs no matter how talented they are so i doubt they get great offers

id like to see Dychko, Levit , Niyazymbetov , Alimkhanuly , Yeleussinov go pro there all top class

 

definetly but it would be hard to market a Kazakh in england or usa, best chance is if the Klitschkos decide they want to be big promotors , they would be able to snap up all these fighters and have the means to promote them

if that guy who promotes Povetkin wanted to he could become a major oce in boxing simply by signing all these fighters he seems to have the money. From middleweight upwards most of the talent coming thrugh is from eastern europe

he could sign Medzhidov, Omarov, Dychko, Tishchenko, Levit, Niyazymbetov ,Mamazulunov, Ivanov, Chebotarev , Alimkhanuly , derevyanchenko , Yeleussinov, Akshalov , Polyanskiy, Petrauskas, Berinchyk, Chalabiyev, Nikitin, Butsenko,Aloyan, Zhakypov , Egorov

 

Technically, Klitchsko is also from Kazakhstan. There's going to more pros coming from Kazakhstan for sure. I was watching the World Championships last year and they had a plethora of great boxers who were sharp, quick, agile, etc.

 

Much more difficult for fighters from that part of the world to get professional contracts from promoters that see them as unmarketable. Shumenov only turned pro because he was from a wealthy family and basically started his own promotional company with his brother.

 

Winning olympic gold is worth 250,000$ in kazakhstan i believe, plus the kazak government supports the fighters pretty well. Gold medalists like Serik Sapiev and Bahkyt Sarsekbayev (my two faves) can also make money being spokesmen for companies and ****.

Also from personal experience, many fighters are hesitant to go pro because of the huge mafia influence. A distant cousin of mine was a huge star in amateur muay thai fighting. The guy travelled to thailand and beat several guys there, but he got literally a couple of hundred dollars to a few grand for his performances. His managers are all connected to the mafia, even if he went to the police, they would rat him out and the goons would kill him. Why do you think fighters like GGG and jirov fight in the US lol.

Heres a good article on the matter, (not just boxers btw, wrestlers and other fighters too).

http://www.rferl.org/content/Shooti...ghts_Series_Of_Suspicious_Deaths/1802109.html


PS Kanat Islam is a kazakh boxer who turned pro. He is born in china but is ethnically kazakh. Check him out, he's got a KO power and a mean left hook.

 

Sapiev is an amazing fighter. I remember seeing him in the Olympics and the WC's. I definitely think he'd have been a very interesting pro. He had cat like quick feet. I remember seeing him totally dominate Errol Spence, who's one of America's best pros. He had this quick in and out style .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQFmIYgecvw

 

^^ yea, too bad about his punches though, from what i understand the dude can crack but prefers volume over quantity.

I personally like Bakhyt way more though, check him out, gold medalist 2008, Same weight class as sapiev, in fact sapiev moved up after Sarsekbayev left i think. Blazing hands, quick feet, cracking power,fast counter punching, excellent timing and distance, in and out, a very complete fighter except for his inside game which we didn't get to really see in this fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEIeVfyfzo

 

**** how do i make it appear as a video lol

 

As a Kazakh I would agree with the above arguments against Kazakhs turning pros. There is good support from the Kazakh government for the amateur program, and many decent Kazakh boxers are kept in the ams National team to participate in the upcoming 2016 Olympics. After the Olympics the situation may change and young proven boxers may become pros after that. Off course GGG's success caused a major shift in the minds of amateur champions and they look up to GGG and his brother Max to test the waters in pros but for now this topic is out of discussion. I think this is mainly because these decent boxers are still young:

- Yelleusinov, world champ, the most talented amateur in MW (the most successful weight for Kazakh boxers) can follow the path of GGG, he is only 23 y.o. After the Olympics in 2016 he'll be 25, the most suitable age for turning pro.

- Alimkhanuly, world champ, the one who knocked down Irishman Jason Quigley (who recently signed with Goldenboy Promotions), is only 21 y.o. He'll be 23 after the Olympics in 2016. I think he is still unpolished, but man, he has a looooot of talent.

- Niyazymbetov, the silver boy - always comes short in the finals of major tournaments, is already 25 y.o. He's the one who may need to turn pro now, as he'll be 27 after the Olympics, but so far he's tied to the National team and will not move. He is smart and doesn't waste energy with constant jumping, which is good for the pros, but there is a reason he lost all his major finals - he can't adjust during his fights Canelo like. If he is in the zone, he's very good.

- Levit, 26 - participates in the WSB and doing quite well. He is suprisingly good and hit the tops of WSB ratings. He would be a good asset for any promoter but is tied to WSB.

- Dychko, 24 - unfortunately has a weak chin like Wlad Klitschko, and his game is too amateur style - no holding, always in and out - I do think among those listed he has to up his game the most in order to be a success in the pros.

Among those listed the only ones I see is at GGG level of talent - Yelleusinov and maybe Alimkhanuly but need to see him mature more. But to be fair, all of those listed are more talented that our joke Shumenov.

There are other champs like Akshalov and Illyasov but they certainly need more to prove in the ams.

One thing to mention - the first numbers in the National team do not participate in WSB unless there is an absolute necessity - those main Kazakh boxers who participate in WSB are the second best.

P.S. For the record, on Macklin fight Lou DiBella approached Sapiyev who was in GGG's stands and offered him $1m to get under his promotion but Sapiyev refused taking into account his new duties and his age (31 yo).

 

Well more and more of the Eastern Euros (If you can call Kazakhstan Eastern Europe, its really central Asia), are going pro.

The Olympics should essentially be for u.23 boxers, if you have top level talent, you should really be looking to move up to pro after that.

 

AIBA Pro boxing is starting in the fall 2014, so you can bet that most of the top Kazakh boxers will go there.

Yeleussinov is a welterweight. He is top class and #1 rated in the world, world champion as well. He was the captain of Kazakhstan's team in the world championships. I believe that he will turn pro inside AIBA as well, so he could also participate the Olympics. He was definitely overall one of the best boxers in the world championships last year, had an amazing fight with Despaigne in the finals.

 

his rated number one and is a great boxer but Roniel Sotologo Iglesias is the best amateur welterweight in the world

 

Iglesias fights at 64 no? Daniyar is rated at 69 kg.

Anyways i agree Daniyar is the best overall, i like alim too but he gasses like in every fight lol and he doesn't seem to have that fighters confidence.