Keith Fitzgerald Thurman vs. Brock Jarvis

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Mar 10, 2025.


"One Time" or "The Wallet"?

Poll closed Mar 12, 2025.
  1. Thurman on points

    13.8%
  2. Thurman by stoppage

    72.4%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Jarvis on points

    3.4%
  5. Jarvis by stoppage

    10.3%
  1. GBoxingFeed

    GBoxingFeed Active Member Full Member

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    Thurman can clearly punch hard, as evidenced by the first hand evidence given by his experienced opponents.
    I think the reason he doesn’t get as many KO’s as his power would suggest, is because he is a rhythmic mover in the ring - his feet are rarely set and he tends to punch on the move. Which is why his punch flow and combinations are so aesthetically appealing to watch. But when he sets and sits down on his shots he hurts people.
     
  2. GBoxingFeed

    GBoxingFeed Active Member Full Member

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    Fair play to Thurman - he looked good tonight given how long he was out of the ring. Crazy to think he’s from the prior generation of welters - shows how stacked that division used to be.

    Remember really wanting to see him in with Khan, Brook, even Crawford. Shame we never saw those fights - Thurman Khan would’ve been great in 2015.
     
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  3. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He looked god tonight against a kid that was fed to the lion for a decent payday and his management should be ashamed.
    No head movement whatsoever no angles no anything.
    I felt horrible for the kid unless it was a great deal of money involved.
     
  4. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Now that fight is over , In three or more years we will hear about “once upon a time” Thurman again.
     
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  5. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hilarious this even took place. Thurman tryna hype himself again after beating yet another journeymen...PBCs finest hour. Again.

    And all this on a delayed stream...fight was on ESPN2 delayed stream LMAO...
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Absolutely. Prime Keithy had beautiful skills and power in both hands and he was a natural 147 pounder/154 pounder. He would walk Spence into shots and detonate on hi chin and take him out at some point.
     
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  7. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    "One Time" has become a joke because of the time he's spent outside of the ring in between his fights not due to him lacking power.

    Nice try though. Whenever you and your buddy are done arguing silly things that are far from reality, I'll be happy to discuss some actual boxing news with you.
     
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  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Thurman is not a big puncher at the world stage. Get over it.
     
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  9. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thurman ducked Spence and Crawford. Probably wouldve ducked Brook too.
     
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  10. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which is why Thurman ducked pre-crash Spence like the plague. Literal journeymen opponents (Collazo and Josesito) had Thurman hurt and running around the ring. Spence wouldve killed that boy. Crawford wouldve stopped Thurman, 100%. Brook wouldve won a decision.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Regardless of whether Keithy ducked Spence or not, the two of them climb into a ring with each other in their primes and Keithy knocks his ass out.

    Spence has been hurt a bunch of times by average punchers at best, so much so he had to spit his mouthpiece out to buy time. Keithy ain't a 140 pounder featherfist he's a big, strong 147/154, with great skills and serious pop. Spence just don't got the whiskers
     
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  12. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    You should work on your comprehension before hitting REPLY..... I don't think anyone here is calling him a knock out artist. I personally just pointed out the ignorance being showcased with those associating people making fun of his nickname with his power when the 2 had nothing to do with each other. People are using his nickname to poke fun at the fact his presence in the ring has been distant.

    One Time.......to "Once Upon A Time".....common sense factored in.....how does that suggest he doesn't have any power?

    And me pointing that out......how are you getting that I'm arguing him to have some other worldly power?

    I simply pointed out what 3 FIGHTERS WHO'S BEEN IN THE RING WITH HIM are on record for saying.... Danny Garcia is the one who stated that he is the hardest hitting puncher he's ever been in the ring with which would include his amateur career. Shawn Porter is the one who is on record for saying Thurman's punches are similar to bricks being thrown at you. But I guess you being a professional boxing forum debater, your word means more than the experienced professional fighters, huh?....... That's not the reality I live. Does that offend you....maybe you should get over it.

    P.S. If I was to argue Thurman having big power at the world stage.....I would at least bring up the fact that Keith Thurman has 21 fights at 154lbs. Of those fights 19 of them ended in a stoppage. That would suggest that he is stronger at 154lbs than he was as a welterweight being that only 4 of his 12 fights at 147lbs have ended in a stoppage.

    But you don't seem like the type to rely on facts for these discussions..... Rather emotions....so........whatever.
     
  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mouthpiece spitting happened after the car accident and Spence went on to stop Ugas in his worst mouthpiece moment.

    I'd have bet Spence heavy if Keith fought him. Keith couldnt even hurt Danny or Porter. Dont see how he had any chance against a body punching savage like Spence imho
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You do realize you are talking to one of the world's preeminent chin and punch resistance scientists, right?

    I identified his lack of mandibular fortitude long ago, going right back to when he was hurt by KO 43% Emmanuel Lartey. I've never liked the way he reacts to getting hit, even against light to average punchers. He pulls ouch that really hurt faces and he's barely fought any legit punchers, especially his size. The KO% of his opponents are embarrassing, especially when you apply context.

    Prime Keithy was too skilful, slick and powerful and would've shattered that old lady mandible of his for sure.

    Spence was wincing and pulling ouch, that really hurt faces against Porter. Fact is Spence had been cursed at birth with below average punch resistance and you don't need to have a PhD in chin science to identify it either
     
  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I respectfully disagree on some points sir.

    I agree about Errol and I was never high on Spence either for a lot of reasons. From his tendency to throw low blows to his "side of the street" nonsense (Thurman did this too) nor can we forget how he settled for a decision w no KDs against 135lb Mikey. A lot of hype and bark without the bite...At the same time though Thurman never hurt a good opponent (Porter, Danny, old Manny) let alone KOed someone. He does have dominant wins over less competition but his power never seemed to move the needle versus top guys. And his body weakness has been apparent versus some of those lesser guys and I think Spence wouldve had success in that department.
     
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