Kell Brook needs at least 17 months off.

Yes he was but Spence adjusted and I don't think Brook could ever handle those body shots.

Carson Jones was ripping him to shreds in a similar fashion but was far lesser in ability than Spence and couldn't finish the job. Granted that was early in Kell's career, but I don't believe any version would beat Spence, if we are to be brutally honest.

What did surprise me was why Kell didn't follow up with his combinations. He'd land a clean 1-2 that would stun Spence but then would step back and let him off the hook.

 

Not just the fact that he went up to 160, but the fact that Brook chose to go up against the most feared and destructive fighter in the Middleweight division. All to prove what, exactly?

 

Yeah, and his health ended up being damaged long term as a result. Do you think Hearn should take the blame for that?

 

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It wasn't the duration of the beating that Golovkin gave him, but the kind of sudden and dramatic violence in it that I think ruined Brook. Particularly given how fast he came back.

Brook's trainer said that the injury Brook suffered against GGG was like a car crash injury. GGG was hammering Brook all over the ring with vicious punches.

Brook had been 36-0 and on top of the world. The next thing he knows he's been demolished, injured and dethroned.

It's not just the physical damage. It's the mental damage. That's one reason why you keep guys out awhile after they lose by stoppage. Coming back so soon was begging to lose again.

 

Brook beat Porter in August 2014. His decisions since then have been an absolute car crash.

 

Brook did not get ruined by GGG. He performed better than I expected against Spence. It doesn't take 17 months to figure out how to employ a body attack. Spence happens to be better than Porter.

 

I think Hearn should somewhat, if he didn't appeal to whatever common sense Brook had, attempt to talk him out of challenging Golovkin, and try and get Brook a big fight at 154 with one of the Charlo's, Harrison, Hurd or Soro. Although most of those guys may have been tied up at that time.

In the event Brook, ultimately, proved to be too brave for his own good. What was to be gained by trading with Golovkin, then defiantly waving Golovkin in in the 4th and 5th rounds?

 

LMAO yeah, he was even showboating.

 

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fair points you raised there. Can't argue that.

It's a shame really because, in all of the 36 fights Brook had, barring GGG, he's really struggled for top opponents in my opinion. He took unnecessary damage against Carson in the first fight, though managing to make up for it in their second scrap.

I agree, totally that coming back so soon was wrong of him; especially back down to 147. Seeing him on the scale yesterday afternoon didn't fill me with much confidence, where as spence looked like he'd just undressed and stepped on to the scales.

 

Thanks.

Yeah, it seemed inevitable Brook would fade tonight. It's a shame, but it's him and his team's fault for coming back too soon.

He's not the only person in the history of the sport who made that mistake, but it was a mistake, I think.

 

I think I heard Froch mention fatigue setting in in the later round due to the drop in weight. We're taking the best part of a stone, too.

Like I said previously, Brook walks away with a nice pay cheque especially as the fight was on PPV and prediction were mooted to be around 250k buys.

He took home about £3m v GGG and I think he'll be looking at close to £2m this time round. Not to mention he lives in Yorkshire, ffs. So you can bet his mortgage was paid of long ago. I'd deliberate long and hard about retiring..

 

possibly. brook's best years have passed him by under hearn, and in the last 2 fights he's gone from having his whole career in front of him and looking like he might finally kick on and fullfil his potential, to potentially looking at retirement.

but hey, at least stub hub have a great mark up.

 

Then he's at 33 years old

 

The whole point in the GGG fight was to get Brook on PPV and hope that he'd do well enough to be a PPV fighter when he came back down to 147/154. He wouldn't have achieved that by fighting any of the fighters you mentioned who are unknown to casuals over here.

In theory it worked but it's derailed his career. Hearn and Brook jointly took the gamble and it paid off in the short term getting a stadium fight on PPV but he doesn't look the same fighter that heard the first bell against GGG