Kelly Pavlik needs Paul "The Punisher" Williams

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  1. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    exactly!:good
     
  2. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Have you ever heard Pavlik was way over pay in the Lockett fight? I mean **** 2.5 million to face a bum on hbo? I heard the ratings for that fight was terrible in which is why hbo refuse to put Pavlik vs Rubio. And also it shows again that even though Hbo pick 4 fighters for Pavlik to face, they won't put up more then 1 million for Pavlik to beat an easy opponent like the Sturm fight in which Pavlik will only get 1 million dollars.
     
  3. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Why wouldn't his stamina hold up? Pavlik fights nothing like Andrade and Bute's stamina was perfectly fine in the other 23 fights he had so far.
     
  4. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    i could care less about a ring ranking. what did he do to deserve # 3?? who did he beat winky...and when was Winky's last win at 160? bull**** ass rankings.
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Oh, don't get me wrong, I think PW will get KO'd. But, from each fighter's perspective - where they're confident of winning - it's a good idea. They're going to have to roll the dice at some point, anyway; it's not like there are many other fights out there.

    Well, it depends on the manner of the victory. If Pdub collapses after eating one right hand in the first round, then Pavlik won't get much credit. If it's a war and Pavlik grinds him down and stops him late, he will. In any case, it beats fighting Martinez.
     
  6. Ring Master

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    and how much for Rubio? did you know that Pavlik - Lockett was one of the worst HBO rated WCB of alltime. I believe ever actually.
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Don't twist the simple truth and fact.

    Pavlik is already a established fighter and name at 160 . . . his real weigh division . . . Williams is just another promising and exciting fighter . . . so if they'll fight at 160 . . . who calls the shot.

    Who needs who? :think
     
  8. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    You're distracting the issue again. OBVIOUSLY, Williams vs. Pavlik is worth more than Pavlik vs. X or Williams vs. Y; that's the nature of the game. That doesn't stop Pavlik being the bigger draw. Pavlik vs. X would make more money than Williams vs. X, for starters. And, as I mentioned earlier, Pavlik is a bigger name, has mixed in more famous company, sells out the Boardwalk Hall and is the champ at 160.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Name 2 middleweights other than Pavlik that you would bet 10K on against Paul:yep
     
  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Regardless, Pavlik has a bigger following and brings more cash to the table.
     
  11. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Ouch and Pavlik is a draw? :lol: Plus his ppv buys vs Taylor and Hopkins was around way under 300k? :lol: Ouch. Hbo obviouslly is not giving Pavlik close to 2 million unless Pavlik face a real opponent like the Williams fight. I know you don't like that Pavlik might face Williams but i like it cause i feel Williams can beat Pavlik.
     
  12. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Any fighters can sell out in atlantic city if it's cheap like in Pavlik vs Rubio. Again if Pavlik is a draw or a bigger draw as you say then why hbo wouldn't offer more then close to 2 million for Pavlik facing Sturm? You can't be a draw if he can't have good tv ratings and can't have terrible ppv buys twice in a row vs name opponents like Taylor and Hopkins.
     
  13. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Yea and Pavik only have bigger following in atlantic city? lol. Why don't pavlik fight in msg in which thats is the worlds most famous arena if he's the big draw?
     
  14. Landshark

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    Could not agree with you more, **** fight if you ask me! I pretty much said the same thing you did when the fight was intially anounced. I would rather see Kelly take on Sturm, Mundine Gevor, legitimate MWeights.
     
  15. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    AGAIN, a fighter being a decent draw doesn't imply he could make a fortune against anybody. How many times do I have to say it? - PW vs. KP is the big money fight for both guys. It doesn't mean Pavlik isn't the bigger draw.

    To help you understand this feat of the business world, consider the following example. Mayweather is a bigger draw than Marquez, but Mayweather would make more by fighting Marquez than by fighting some random cupcake.