Kessler v Bute

1) Andrade will most likely not win against Lucian Bute. Librado Andrade is dangerous and one of the best fighters in the supermiddleweight division but he is not on Lucian Bute's level. Do you remember how many people thought he would beat Mikkel Kessler before their fight?

2) Let us hope for a fight in 2009. The latest I heard was that Lucian Bute was planning to make a break for the top in 2009. Just because he wasn't ready late in 2007 doesn't mean he won't be ready in 2009, does it?

3) If Lucian Bute has a 1% chance against Mikkel Kessler then that will be 100% more than the 0.5% chance that Mikkel Kessler had against Joe Calzaghe, wouldn't you say? As far as I remember, Mikkel Kessler still managed to win four rounds against the Champion, even with a 0.5% chance of winning. Lucian Bute should win quite a bit more with twice the chance of winning. I predict Lucian Bute will win eight rounds against Mikkel Kessler.

 

You are always entitled to your opinion. I am not an oracle.

 

You can say that again!

 

1. I sure would like to see Bute win so that we can have the biggest fight that can be made in SM, with Calzaghe gone. I just think that Andrade could TKO Bute late.

2. Agree

3. I think that the odds would be 70-30 in favor of Kessler if they fought today, 60-40 in they fought today in Canada

 

1) Bute is technically better than Andrade - no doubt. However, Andrade is relentless in his pressure, and has good power. Cast iron chin. Bute's D is not very great, nor does he move too fast. Nor does he respond well to pressure. Yes, there were some people who thought Andrade would win, simply because he was more well known in USA. As we all saw, he faced the same fate as all other fighters save Calzaghe has faced. JC and Kessler are head and shoulders above the rest at SMW, and therefore it can't be used as a comparison on how Bute will handle Andrade.

2) Lucas said in 07 that he wasn't ready for Kessler, but he would try to get a fight done in 08. I haven't seen any offer yet. Now it can be 09 at the earliest.

3) I fail to see what you are saying. It was a 50/50 fight. Kessler was prime, Calzaghe in his twillight. Furthermore, JC is hot and cold, and we wouldn't know how he would deal with the stronger Kessler. Calzaghe just adapted, and had a great gameplan, whereas Kessler didn't. You can't use hindsight to support your argument.

 

It doesn't matter what Lucian Bute's chances against Mikkel Kessler are right now. The only thing that matters is what his chances will be on the night of the fight, and I am certain they will be higher than they are at present.

 

1) More accurately, Joe Calzaghe was head and shoulders above everyone in the supermiddleweight division, including Mikkel Kessler.

2) Stephan Larouche and Lucian Bute said that Lucian Bute would use 2008 to improve. Unfortunately, due to his injury, he hasn't had the opportunity to do so as much as they had hoped. No one ever mentioned Lucian Bute might fight Mikkel Kessler in 2008. 2009 was the earliest date hypothetically proposed for such a fight. Lucian Bute is not looking beyond his fight against Librado Andrade, though. One step at the time, this is the plan.

3) You gave Mikkel Kessler a 50% chance of beating Joe Calzaghe and yet you give Lucian Bute not more than a 1% chance of beating Mikkel Kessler assuming that he would already have beaten Librado Andrade? It seems your reason is clouded by your attachment to your favourite, Mikkel Kessler.

 

Why so?

 

He isn't going to beat Librado Andrade, he's going to getting brutally beaten down in an entertaining fight and then maybe most people will re-think a few things.

 

No it was also just a way to say that i see it as a close fight, yes Bute could improve, but so can Kessler.

I think it is insane to give Bute 1% chance, even Haussler would have more then that!

Why would any Danes or Canadiens try to talk Kessler or Bute down? When i think that Andrade could win, it is not to trash Bute, but because i believe so! And maybe also because i like the guy....

 

1) Calzaghe wasn't head and shoulders above Kessler. He won by a good margin, but many rounds were close, and is a better overall fighter. Still Kessler is head and shoulders above the rest.

2) When you become WC, you need to prove yourself against the top ranks. You can improve when you are fighting tomato cans. Acting like you are a up and coming fighter, is overprotecting your fighter. Andrade is a great fight though, and one that I have great respect for being made.

3) If he improves so much that he will shut out Andrade, I will change this. Neither fight has been fought, and I could change my percentage. Right now, I give him 1%. But since I feel that Andrade will win this, why would I think that Kessler-Bute would be more, considering how outboxed Andrade was? What chance do you give Bute in those fights?

 

Because Lucian Bute is improving and gaining in confidence whereas Mikkel Kessler has yet to fight with the confidence he had before he was outclassed by Joe Calzaghe and it is doubtful that he will improve much, if his performance against Dimitri Sartison is anything to go by. My prediction is that Mikkel Kessler will overcome the blow to his confidence that resulted from his defeat at the hands of Joe Calzaghe somewhat, but will not fight Lucian Bute with more confidence than that he displayed against Joe Calzaghe. I suspect that Mikkel Kessler lacks some of the self-belief required to go to the limit against determined, versatile, intelligent fighters - and he has only faced one of those fighters until now, and lost to him. It remains to be seen whether Lucian Bute possesses these qualities to a sufficiently large extent, but I, unlike some Mikkel Kessler fans here, wouldn't count Lucian Bute out just yet. He might surprise everyone!

 

Lucian Bute will get brutally beaten down by Librado Andrade? You must be Librado Andrade's Dutch half-brother if you think that. It also seems you have not watched any Lucian Bute fights.

 

I like Librado Andrade too; he seems like a genuine, modest, hard-working, fair and generous person. He certainly doesn't spare himself in the ring and provides great excitement to boxing fans. Librado Andrade could beat Lucian Bute if Lucian Bute is short of his very best just like he could have beaten Mikkel Kessler had Mikkel Kessler been short of his very best; remember that Librado Andrade gave Mikkel Kessler by far his hardest fight from a physical point of view. I expect he will do the same to Lucian Bute. Hopefully, Lucian Bute will be at his very best, physically. In that case, he should teach Librado Andrade a boxing lesson.

You are right, it seems ridiculous to claim that Mikkel Kessler had a 50% chance of beating Joe Calzaghe whilst claiming Lucian Bute will have a 1% chance of beating Mikkel Kessler after he has beaten Librado Andrade.

I, like you, as a boxing fan and a fan of both Mikkel Kessler and Lucian Bute, hope that both Lucian Bute and Mikkel Kessler improve and stay unbeaten because a fight between them is the most exciting prospect in the supermiddleweight division.

 

Yeah Mikkel's fists were really sore when he was beating the crap out of Andrade.