Kessler vs Miranda - The X factor

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  1. booklord

    booklord Active Member Full Member

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    I think Miranda has the edge on power, aggressiveness and chin. ( As well as probably the hungrier fighter ) While Kessler has a substantial edge in skill and is the smarter fighter.

    Miranda going for all-out attack will miss a lot but will get in a few good shots and maybe even win some of the starting rounds. But Kessler will assert his dominance in the mid-rounds as Miranda's pace slows down and he'll control of the rest of the fight leading to a UD. ( helped by Miranda losing at least one point for low blows )
     
  2. Unstoppable

    Unstoppable New Member Full Member

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    hehe..
    All ya'll have seen is the JC fight and think less of Kessler for it.
    Miranda is no JC, I'm sure we agree..

    Kessler will murder Miranda - showing all how good a win JC's really was. That, plus JC will dominate and bitchslap Bhop for 12 rounds, showing all how good Kessler really is.

    p4p
    #1 JC
    #2 Kessler.

    You need to be American to disagree
     
  3. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I agree with the gist of your post. Too bad you had to muck it up with the anti-American trolling bit.
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No that isnt what I meant. Kessler is a better fighter then Miranda and he should win the fight. What Im saying is that Miranda is better then 95% of the guys that Kessler has fought. So you cant judge his fights vs former featherweights and human punching bags and think that he will do those things to Miranda.
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    The way i see it right now you are saying 95% of the guys Kessler fought were nobodies, but when Kessler beats Miranda you will say the same thing about Miranda

    Guys like Mundine, Beyer, Lucas, Andrade, Siaca
     
  6. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No im saying it before the fight that Miranda isnt that good, but he is better then the guys you just listed except maybe Mundine. And Mundine fights like a b*tch, he may be the biggest waste of talent in the past 10 years.

    Im not even picking Miranda to win the fight, what im saying is you cant use the guys that Kessler is use to fighting to gauge what he will do vs Miranda. You cats did that going into the fight with Joe...How did that work???
     
  7. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    Miranda has as much, if not more to prove in this fight than Kessler does. Yea, Mikkel is coming of a loss, but it was a respectable loss to a p4p top fighter. Pantera was a big hype that lost his steam when he got brutally KO'd by Pavlik. He claims weight drained killed him and at 168lbs he is a new man.

    A win over Kessler puts him right back where he was if he would have beaten Pavlik and convinces the public that his weight drain excuses was indeed a big factor.

    Edison is going to surprise a lot of you doubters in this fight. He will come with the right gameplan to destroy Kessler.
     
  8. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are full of ****....Watch that 12 th round again and say that bull**** again....Kessler gave Calzaghe hell in that round..
    What a ****ing moron!!
     
  9. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I aint smoking any crackpipe, you obviously was when you watched the fight...
    Why not say it like it is, you dont like Kessler, there it got out!Its a hell off al ot better than the bull**** you claim...
     
  10. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well maybe you should put yours down long enough to watch that 12th round again. If you can't see Kessler was in all out attackmode in that round, then you should go back to your pipe and watch some X-factor or something else that fits your IQ a bit better.

    Oh and go watch the 12th round of Kessler-Andrade too - where Kessler even though he was ahead 11 rounds to none went at Andrade as he needed the KO to win...
     
  11. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Siaca, Beyer, Mundine and Lucas all held worldtitles - Siaca and Beyer held their belts when facing Kessler (Mundine just lost his and is no again some sort of champion) - Miranda has lost both his attempts at titles and I doubt very much has the skills to take a real belt.

    As for Mundine wasting his talent - couldn't agree more - both him and WBA(for allowing these "defenses") are a laughing stuck!
     
  12. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kessler went all out in that round, threw bombs, made JC go backwards, is that a display of lack of heart?
    How many have you seen do this in the late rounds against JC who has the best stamina in the game....

    Kessler has no heart!!! Sure, thats how he became a double worldchamp...
     
  13. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I never said he rocked Calzaghe in the 12th - he did that earlier in the fight thou. I said he went for the KO in round 12 - all out attack and he won the round although not getting Calzaghe down.

    I also agree on Kessler and his trainer having no plan B - hell they didn't even follow plan A, which was working ok. But that's bad planning and a very poor corner - that has got nothing to do with heart... Kessler have plenty of heart, as he showed in round 12. As he showed going downunder injured for his first defense of the WBA-titel against top5 Mundine. As he showed going to Wales to face the King of SMW and giving Calzaghe his closest fight to date.
     
  14. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Forget i Faetter this guy wont budge..You know , against stupidity even the gods come up emptyhanded...
     
  15. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yoy said Kessler have "NO heart" ... not that he didn't do enough or went after it enough. You said he has no heart.

    No mater how you see the 12th round I think it's totally wrong to claim Kessler has no heart - see the points noted earlier...