Khan's latest classic one liner

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by SouthpawSlayer, Sep 4, 2012.


  1. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    fair enough then to all your post as you are correct there is no evidence, however i wont let that affect my judgement and it would be wrong to think he wasnt, there is a chance he has never used :huh but the chance he has is far greater given the circumstances

    in relation to the red font part, you are wrong as he and ariza rejected OSDT for the JMM fight which was around last winter sometime
     
  2. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    yeah course he is, he is working with a man who invented products that made PED's undetectable around 15 years ago, imagine what things this guy has created over those 15 years
     
  3. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I give him the benefit of the doubt, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was a user. I just don't like him being condemned as a cheat, and his name being dragged through the mud without irrefutable evidence.

    All throughout the Olympics people were making the same accusations towards Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt and any others who put in special performances.

    Do you have a link for this? Not that I think you're lying, but I can't find anything on google. I know the subject of Olympic testing was brought up because of Marquez's association with Angel Heredia.
     
  4. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    You mean without ANY evidence. There's a reason GBP got the **** out of that lawsuit as soon as they could. Their lawyers must have gone ape-**** when they say the idiocy Oscar and Schaefer had come out with regarding Pac and PEDs.
     
  5. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar especially came across badly with his comments.

    "Now I have to wonder about him," De La Hoya wrote. "I'm saying to myself, 'Wow, those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same"

    Prior to that he had said this

    "I just didn’t care. I didn’t care if he was hitting me because I couldn’t do anything about it. Luckily he doesn’t hit hard. Obviously, if he would’ve hit hard, he would have knocked me out with no problem.”

    and this

    “Truthfully, he didn’t hit hard. He didn’t really hurt me. But the punches were so fast and they were coming from everywhere.”

    http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/mayweather-pacquiao-peds-and-boxing

    Completely put me off him.
     
  6. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cluf9TF6JsM[/ame]
     
  7. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    it was on 24/7 when all the beef came out about JMM s+c coach hernandez and his steroid dealing past, ariza and arum came out bad mouthing him, then hernandez proposed OSDT or any type of extra testing and ariza and roach responded by saying why should we have to do different tests than the commision ones

    here is something i found

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/11/07/11/marquez-willing-undergo-drug-testing

    it was made clear to everyone that marquez and his team were willing to do OSDT, it was only a month or less before the fight so it was obviously a bluff as they knew pac would be "on cycle" at the time and would never agree to it, clever way of shutting up arum and ariza at the time
     
  8. Flea Man

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    VADA caught Lamont did they not? Not USADA?
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Either way I've got mixed up; my point was that whoever it was were not going to release any TRT findings on Floyd.
     
  10. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would people please STOP using the phrase 'Olympic style testing' - None of these boxers are asking for that (i wonder why).

    Olympic testing is 24/7, 365 days a year testing. Not what Floyd does, ie go away for 9 months to do whatever he likes, then gives blood and urine for the duration of his camp. Its ridiculous
     
  11. SouthpawSlayer

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    its not really though, an athlete can go on "vacation" for a few months and the IOC will not know where they are and wont go looking for them, if they need to test an athlete they go to their home country, Kelly holmes went to South Africa to train before her double gold.........uuumm wonder why that was

    some countries do not adhere to the random testing either and the IOC need to give a few weeks notice before they arrive in the country for "random" testing

    anyway even when a boxer like PBF who does the USADA testing the best time for him to be on gear is the time when he is being tested.
    what would be the point in taking stuff when he is months or more away from a fight? when the random testing period comes in then his body will be in shock and wont be able to train as it would be without its regular dose of PED's

    the more likely scenario is mayweather still takes stuff when he is being randomly tested but has paid a clever doctor nice sums of money to provide stuff that is unknown and undetectable to USADA or he takes the regular stuff with masking agents, The notion that he juices hard outside of his training camp for a fight then when the time period for random testing comes he comes off it is ludicrous this would be far more detrimental than beneficial to an athlete
     
  12. dftaylor

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    You are right - GBP contracted USADA to do their testing, with a stipulation that they would not release the findings without GBP's approval. And that's to anyone, commissions, sanctioning orgs, the media, the fighters, the networks...

    Very, very suspicious!
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Bolt being a prime example :deal

    Nadal with his 'injuries' :deal

    Floyd with his 'retirements' :deal
     
  14. brown bomber

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    People peds are part of boxing - sad but true. Personally a couple more fights and I'll be glad to be out. There is nothing that can be done about and no one of any consequence will ever make a legitimate stance against it.

    The advantages that taking a steroid give someone is ridiculous.
     
  15. SouthpawSlayer

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    its beyond ridiculous, for those that dont know the full story and think boxers like manny are not taking maybe you guys should eductae yourselves more on the topic before assuming your boy is clean

    your average male produces 70 to 100miligrams of testosterone per week take into account a boxer whose pituitary gland has taken a beating over the years and has had a long tough career this number could be as low as 30 miligrams per week,

    your average power lifter who competes at national level in tournaments where you can use ped's and there are no testings in place will inject anywhere from 500 to 800miligrams per week, im sure most of these would be closer to the latter and obviously if needs be you can take even more than that

    to train like the top guys in the world for 5 hours a day for 8 weeks on a testosterone level of 70 to 100 mg per week would be suicidal and near impossible without sickness and injury