King Kong Ortiz vs.....

Not a chance. Wilder is way too fragile to survive Ortiz's onslaught. outjabbing lethargic and lazy back foot fights like Stiverne, Duhaupas, and a bum like Molina doesn't mean you have a world level jab. Ortiz would laugh at his pathetic jab and KO him.

 

If he can get to someone like Jennings early who's far more defensively sound then Wilder is then well.... You know.... Ortiz may or may not have a good chin, but when Eric Molina is taking your power for nearly 10 rounds your power is definitely overrated. I think Ortiz would be alright

 

You might have a point if Molina wasn't polished off in 1 by an unknown a couple of years prior. Molina does not have a world class chin, not even close to it. Wilders power was just overrated and it showed as soon as he stepped up in class. nearly a 1/3 of the rounds he's gone in his career he's gone in his last 3 fights!

Wilder for all of his improvements still is nowhere near a defensively sound fighter and there will be plenty of opportunities there for Ortiz even early into the fight. It would not be pretty let's just say that.

 

All world class big men.

All with solid amatuer careers.

Lets see him fight a Euro level like Wach or Ustinov and then we can decide.:huh:huh:huh

 

Wilder and Joshua is favor, just slightly. Ortif winning would not be surprising in the least.

Fury and wlad get stopped much quicker than jennings. Wlad earlier than fury.. if fury went 12 with this wlad, that moves him further down the hw rankings for me..


Fyi: have to admit, it was good of you to leave that fringe contender povetkin out of the conversation as he has zero chance against all 4 of them beasts

 

Would love to see Wilder vs Ortiz though, would be a great fight. Fury beats him fairly comfortably, Klitschko should beat him on points and Joshua shouldn't even be in the picture right now, great talent but has done nothing to deserve being mentioned in the same bracket as these guys.

 

Ortiz is a sucker for someone with a good straight right. Fury and Wlad keep him away with a long jab and win by late KO.
Joshua gets KTFO.
Wilder probably can't withstand Ortiz, but could land that long right that Ortiz is open for time and time again.

 

fury beats ortiz very easily wide points decision ...and very acurate counter punching ...

 

kos Fury in under 5, Kos Wlad around round 10, Takes Joshua out in 6, and Deontay dances to a ud loss.

 

I just watched the fight and Ortiz is a very skilled operator. That said, he has no chance against Fury, Wlad, or Wilder.

Ortiz is a counter-puncher first and foremost and he needs room to punch. Jennings best work was when they were in close quarters where he took advantage of hooks and uppercuts. Ortiz didn't like that and kept him at bay by pushing him away and using a very solid jab.

Ortiz is not going to out jab Fury, Wlad, and Wilder. They are not as skilled, but they are tall, have long reach and know how to jab. For someone shorter to beat them they have to pressure and use head movement to get on the inside.

Fury, Wlad, and Wilder are the top 3 guys right now. Wald should probably just retire since there isn't anything else for him to prove. He reigned as champ for a long time. The power vacuum will leave room for fresh new fights.

 

Think this is spot on, although I'd put money on Ortiz over Wilder