Kirks Championships : Boxing Prediction League : 2018

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, Jan 3, 2018.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I apologize if this bums anyone out in advance.

    Just an observation/rumination here....

    Most relatively normal people are affected by the death of someone close to them pretty severely, and by those they may have known peripherally, with varying degrees of sorrow depending on their closeness. One way or the other, we're all effected by the death's of those near and dear and of passing acquaintances. Every single loss we experience, takes another chunk of our heart and in time we grow numb, eventually we harden ourselves to the point where whatever is left of our hearts is usually made up of metaphorical deadened scar tissue, and we can almost no longer feel anything at all, which in turn effects us psychologically, because we're angry at ourselves for not reacting to a significant loss as adequately as we should.

    But my real point is, as a society we're dealing with a phenomenon that no one before the dawn of the 20th century had to deal with. The steady almost non stop massacre of every one and thing that we hold dear in the public arena, that we don't personally know. Every actor, boxer, athlete, musician, politician, cultural icon will die and are dying on a daily basis, some far too young. But here's the catch, logically and consciously you know very well that they are not related to you, so in theory you should be able to cope with that with far more ease than when someone close to you dies. But deep down in your id, in your subconscious mind, you don't really know the difference, it literally doesn't have the ability to differentiate the two, so you're experiencing the death of a celebrity to an almost equal extent as you'd experience the death of an acquaintance.

    Think about it, collectively countries have gone through periods of mass mourning, some bordering on group psychosis after the death of a leader, a President or a Princess or even significant members of your local community, that's accompanied by wailing and screaming, true genuine soul shattering pain. That pain is massively amplified when its a national tragedy like a hurricane or earthquake, especially when you view it o television in all of its graphic horrifyingly painful detail.

    So while you may fortunately only experience the deaths of 30 maybe 40 or 50 people who are close to you over a lifetime, the reality is, your subconscious mind is processing everyone you know, both personally or celebrities you admire from afar exactly the same. Because like your family and friends, you have detailed memories of most of them. Then when add in all of the school shootings, terror attacks, natural disasters and their aftermaths, Imagine what kind of psychological effect that has on you? Its overwhelming, and ultimately short circuiting, because you get so enured to it that your mind literally has to shut that part of your mind down, so you can cope from day to day without completely crumbling.

    That in my opinion may explain why in a world where... in theory everyone should be happier than they've ever been, that our society has become so detached, so uncaring, so unfeeling, so depressed, so overwhelmed and so numb to the pain and suffering of others, often times from a young age. With our celebrity driven culture, this will never end, and sadly is the new normal. From here on out because of our connection to everyone and everything due to technology, we will be faced with an exponential number of non stop tragedies that will end up possibly ruining the psyches of everyone on planet earth, leaving us all in a depressed and disconnected state, constantly being overwhelmed by an unending fog of soul crushing loss fatigue.
     
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  2. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I was just kidding arse hole:flipa:
    No need to break all the fights down lol.
     
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  3. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i don't believe people care in a saddening context. I may be different, but whenever i see a celebrity has died, it elicits more of a momentary "shocked" reaction. for example, i'll say to whoever is with me at the time "oh ****, did you see *insert name here* died, i can't believe it" and then once the conversation has run its course, i normally forget about it and dont think of it again. But i may be completely different because i look at death pragmatically, almost sociopathically, it doesn't effect me much. i've had two grandparents die, but they were ill and i'd expected them to pass soon, and therefore i couldn't be overly saddened by something i knew was imminently approaching. I didn't cry when i heard, but i mourned at the funeral and cried, and after that, i haven't cried since. what a lovely conversation to be having a Friday morning lol
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, I'm not like that at all. I look at death fairly logically, but I'm deeply effected by it regardless, I usually repress the hell out of my feelings and try to sort them out and make sense of them incrementally, until I figure them all out, I'm due fr at least one or two outbursts of tears, and then I try to compartmentalize it away. As far as what I'm saying about celebrities, I don't mean we all cry and blubber and take their deaths as hard as a close family member, but they have an effect regardless, a low level one, that our subconscious mind processes like the death of an acquaintance, so we rack up 1000's of deaths deep in there somewhere that we process as a friend or family member regardless. The steady drip drop of bad news, takes its toll, and leaves us emotionally exhausted.

    And yeah, how uplifting.:eusa_dance: :lol:
     
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  5. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah, i remember you saying you tend to deal more with others emotions in an event like that and bottle up your own. I think everyone has a different way of dealing with grief, and most of those work for them.

    i don't know, as i said, i may just be different but i don't feel like celebrity deaths have had any emotional bearing on my life. if i barely register my own families deaths, i can't see random people i don't know. I know i wouldn't exactly know if its affected me as, well, its unconscious and subconscious, but i don't feel like it has
     
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  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Dude, relax. Crawford is just going to beat Horn up a little, not kill him.
     
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    The only celebrity deaths that have deeply effected me are Ernest Hemingway, Hunter S. Thompson, and Patrice O'Neal. Although, when Artie Lange stabbed himself 9 times in the stomach, it was a bit of a shock too. After that happened, around the same time Thompson blew his brains out, I started to realize that all of my heroes have very self-destructive tendencies and that didn't bode well for my own psyche.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    There's been a handful that I took pretty hard, James Gandolfini, Harold Ramis, Bill Paxton, John Candy, Peter Steele, Ronnie James Dio, George Romero, Chris Benoit, Roddy Piper, Siskel & Ebert, JFK Jr., Princess Diana, Anna Nicole Smith, Whitney Houston, John Ritter and Patrick Swayze all got to me for various reasons.
     
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  9. nellybc

    nellybc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WBK Series 15

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    Please feel free to double check all scores and picks are recorded correctly... After 4 completed rounds:
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    R10: 6/9 - Jeff Horn vs. Terence Crawford - 12x3 WBO World Welterweight Title
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  10. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm changing to Santa Cruz SD and Fury KO 7.
     
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  11. nellybc

    nellybc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    nellybc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  14. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dadashev TKO9
     
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  15. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    What means "default"? Because i had Crawford UD wide and now it's Crawford UD close.
    Is this some kind that happen if two having the same pick so the one who picked it earlier has some advantage?
     
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