**** Kirks ESB Championship 2012 ****

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  1. kirk

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    How will your picks hold up when they are open to challenge by anyone?
    The Peoples Champion is our uncrowned gladiator, it is open for anyone, no matter how many fights you have, no matter what your record looks like, whether you come to the thread a few times a day or once a month, or you have never even posted in this thread before. Be the first to challenge the Champs picks and the title is up for grabs. :good


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    4 Defenses
    PinoyProdigy UD's Kirk
    PinoyProdigy UD's Bolieu
    PinoyProdigy UD's Bajingo
    PinoyProdigy TKO's Lufcrazy



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    FIGHT - Castellanos vs Rizo
    Pinoy - Castellanos
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    2/3 - Ovill Mckenzie Vs. Tony Dodson - Commonweath Title 12x3 ( Boxnation Fight Night )
    2/3 - Isaac Chilemba Vs. Edision Miranda - 10x3 ( ESPN 2 FNF )
    2/3 - Hylon Williams Jr Vs. Rances Barthelemy - 8x3 ( ESPN 2 FNF )
    2/4 - Steve Cunningham Vs. Yoan Pablo Hernandez - 12x3 ( ARD Fight Night/Boxnation )
    2/4 - Alexander Alexeev Vs. Enad Licina - 12x3 Vacant EBU Title ( ARD Fight Night/Boxnation )
    2/4 - Eduard Gutneckht Vs. Viacheslav Uzelkov - 12x3 EBU Title ( ARD Fight Night/Boxnation )
    2/4 - Nonito Donaire Vs. Wilfredo Vazquez Jr - 12x3 Vacant WBO Bantumweight title ( HBO )
    2/4 - Julio Cesar Chavez Jr Vs. Marco Antonio Rubio - 12x3 WBC Middleweight title ( HBO )
    2/4 - Scott Quigg Vs. Jamie Arthur - 12x3 BBBofC British Title ( Sky Sports )
    2/4 - Joe Murray Vs. Chris Male - 10x3 BBBofC English Title ( Sky Sports )
    2/8 - Khabib Allakhverdiev Vs. Ignacio Mendoza - 12x3 ( Russia TV 2 )
    2/10 - Luis Alberto Lazarte vs. Johnriel Casimero - Interim IBF Light Flyweight Title
    2/10 - Lucas Matthysse Vs. Silvero Ortiz - 12x3 WBA Intercontinental Title ( Argentina PPV )
    2/10 - Demitrius Andrade Vs. Derik Ennis - 12x3 ( ESPN 2 FNF )
    2/10 - Samuel Vargas Vs. Manolis Plaitis - 10x3 ( Boxing Channel )
    2/11 - Andre Berto Vs. Victor Ortiz 2 - 12x3 ( Showtime )
    2/17 - John Molina Jr Vs. Marvin Quintero - 10x3 ( ESPN 2 FNF )
    2/17 - Thomas Dulmore Vs. Jose Raynoso - 10x3 ( Showtime Shobox )
    2/18 - Adonis Stevenson Vs. Jesus Gonzales - 12x3 IBF Intercontinental Title ( Canada PPV )
    2/18 - Eledier Alvarez Vs. Otis Griffin - 12x3 WBC Latino Light Heavyweight Title ( Canada PPV )
    2/18 - Brian Magee Vs. Rudy Markussen - 12x3 WBA Interim Title ( Denmark TV 3/ Boxnation? )
    2/18 - Vitali Klitschko Vs. Dereck Chisora - 12x3 WBC Heavyweight Title ( EPIX/Boxnation/RTL )
    2/18 - Paul Williams Vs. Nobuhiro Ishida - 12x3 Title Eliminator I believe. ( Showtime )
    2/18 - Tavoris Cloud Vs. Gabriel Campillo - 12x3 IBF Light Heavyweight Title ( Showtime )
    2/18 - Chris Arreola Vs. Eric Molina - Eliminator ( Showtime )
    2/24 - Juan Carlos Burgos Vs. Cristobal Cruz - 12x3 ( ESPN 2 FNF )
    2/24 - Efrain Esquivias Vs. Roberto Castaneda - 10x3 ( ESPN 2 FNF )
    2/25 - Marco Huck Vs. Alexander Povetkin - 12x3 WBA Plastic Title ( EPIX/Boxnation/ARD )
    2/25 - Ermano Fegatilli Vs. Antonio De Vitis - 12x3 EBU European Title ( Sportitalia )
    2/25 - Nathan Cleverly Vs. Tommy Carpency - 12x3 WBO World title( EPIX/Boxnation )
    2/25 - Frankie Gavin Vs. Jason Cook - 12x3 ( Boxnation/Epix? )
    2/25 - Denis Shafikov Vs. Lee McAllister - 12x3 EBU European Title ( Sky Sports )
    2/25 - Marcos Maidana Vs. Devon Alexander - 12x3 ( HBO )
    2/25 - Adrien Broner Vs. Eloy Perez - 12x3 WBO Title ( HBO )


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    01/27 - Ruslan Provodnikov vs. David Torres
    01/27 - Yakubu Amidu vs. Ji Hoon Kim
    01/28 - Robinson Castellanos vs. Orlando Rizo - WBC Silver Featherweight title
    01/28 - Carl Frampton vs. Kris Hughes - Commonwealth Super Bantamweight title
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    Rusland Provodnikov tko Alisher Rahimov UD Kris Hughes UD Erik Morales UD James Kirkland UD Del Valle UD Bracero UD Ponce KO 1 Yakubu Amidu Ud Kris Hughes UD

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    Ruslan Provodnikov TKO 2 Alisher Rahimov TKO 8 Orlando Rizo TKO 7 Carl Frampton TKO 2 Danny Garcia UD Kirkland UD

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    Provodnikov UD (close one) Amidu KO Castellano TKO Frampton TKO
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    Provodnikov TKO Kim TKO Castellanos UD Hughes UD
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    Rusland Provodnikov TKO Ji Hoon Kim UD Orlando Rizo TKO Carl Frampton UD
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    Provodnikov TKO Frampton UD Kim TKO Castellanos UD
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    Ruslan Provodnikov ko1 Rahimov ko1 Miguel Orlando Rizo ko1 Carl Frampton ko1 Garcia ko1 Mandingo Warrior ko1 amdiu KO1
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    Ruslan Provodnikov UD 12 Ji Hoon Kim KO 1 ( WAR KIM! ) Robinson Castellanos UD 10 Sam Sexton TKO 4. Ovill McKenzie TKO 6, Isaac Chilemba UD 10, Hylon Williams Jr UD 8, Steve Cunningham UD 12, Alexander Alexeev UD 12, Eduard Gutneckht UD 12. Nonito Donaire TKO 7, Marco Antonio Rubio UD 12 ( WAR RUBIO!!! ), Scott Quigg UD 12, Joe Murray UD 10, Khabib Allakhverdiev UD 12, Luis Alberto Lazarte UD 12, Lucas Matthysse TKO 5, Demitrius Andrade UD 12, Samuel Vargas UD 10, Victor Ortiz UD 12, John Molina Jr UD 10, Thomas Dulmore UD 10, Adonis Stevenson UD 12, Eledier Alvarez TKO 9, Rudy Markussen TKO 9, Vitali Klitschko TKO 9, Paul Williams UD 12, Tavoris Cloud SD 12, Chris Arreola TKO 5, Juan Carlos Burgos UD 12, Efrain Esquivias UD 10, Alexander Povetkin UD 12, Ermano Fegatilli UD 12, Nathan Cleverly TKO 9, Frankie Gavin UD 12, Denis Shafikov UD 12, Marcos Maidana UD 12, Adrien Broner UD 12.
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    Provodnikov UD Rahimov UD Castellanos UD Carl Frampton UD Danny Garcia UD James Kirkland UD

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    Provodnikov TKO Rahimov KO Vazquez UD Rizo MD Frampton TKO

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    Provodnikov UD Amidu UD Castellano UD Frampton TKO
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    Provodnikov TKO8 Rahimov KO6 Rizo SD Frampton TKO7
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    Rusland Provodnikov TKO Ji Hoon Kim TKO Rizo TKOFrampton UD Kirkland TKO
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    Diaz TKO Rahimov MD Castellanos UD Frampton UD War MORALES!!! UD by Morales Kirkland KO
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    Provodnikov UD Rahimov TKO Castellanos KO Frampton TKO Morales UD Kirkland UD Amidu UD

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    Provodnikov - TKO Hoon Kim - UD Castellanos - TKO Frampton - UD

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    prov tko 6 kim ud rizo tko 7 frampton tko 4 morales ud kirkland tko 10
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    Provodnikov UD Kim UD Castellanos TKO Frampton TKO
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    Ruslan Provodnikov.. TKO Alisher Rahimov.. TKO Robinson Castellanos.. TKO Carl Frampton UD Erik Morales UD James Kirkland TKO
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    Provodnikov TKO Rahimov KO Vazquez Castellanos UD12 Frampton TKO Martin UD Stieglitz UD Abraham TKO Lee KO

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    Provodnikzial-Ruslan, knockout Amidu, knockout Castellanos, UD Alexander, SD/MD Ishida, UD Frampton, UD


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    Provodnikov UD Kim UD Castellanos TKO Frampton TKO

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    Traditional Rankings will be applied this sunday (everyone will be placed in their divisions)
    Tournament Updates and matches
    Masters and Commander monthly statistics and rankings
     
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    FIGHTS WITH MOST WAGERS PLACED
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    I'll take badbot's challenge. Williams will beat Ishida
     
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    Just realised hes all out of funds :lol: Hes already got $100 in wagers so his next wager (until one of these fights happen) can only be for $10
     
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    Hmmmm.... sounds official that Hopkins vs Dawson 2 is going to happen? Im probably one of 5 boxing fans in the world that actually want to see that fight maybe but I admit Im pumped for the rematch!
     
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    Seeking A Bet!
    $25 on Castellanos beating Rizo
    $10 on Hughes beating Frampton
     
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    Ruslan Provodnikov vs. David Torres- Ruslan Provodnikov by KO
    Yakubu Amidu vs. Ji Hoon Kim- Ji-Hoon Kim by KO
    Robinson Castellanos vs. Orlando Rizo- Robinson Castellanos by UD
    Carl Frampton vs. Kris Hughes- Carl Frampton by KO

    It's the end of the month, and on paper it looked as though it'd be a slow month, and in reality, it has been. This week should be no different. There's a couple of decent fights on tap, but nothing that really gets the blood boiling. Next week (next month) things will start picking up, and in a big way. So, just gotta get through this week, and we got some nice fights on the horizon. Anyway, that's next week, let's talk about this week.

    After a stellar season last year, Friday Night Fights is off to a bit of a slow start. This week, well, in terms of entertainment it should be fun because there should be knockouts, but in terms of a close fight, this probably isn't it. Ruslan Provodnikov is a familiar face on Friday Night Fights, he's been on 4 times, and is 3-1. He'll be looking to go 4-1 and he has a great chance to do that. David Torres is a solid fighter, who...can't get to that next level to be a real live contender. He's more of a journeyman with a glossy record. In a couple of years he'll be a good fighter for a prospect to step up against, is what I'm trying to say. In his last 4 fights he is 1-2-2, and two of those losses have been against that next level of fighters. Julio Diaz and Raymundo Beltran. They both knocked him out. And he's drawn against Santos Pakau and Michael Stewart. That's about his level, and against Provodnikov, that won't be enough. Provodnikov is a real good, impact puncher. He doesn't have that one punch power, but when he hits you, he hurts you. Torres doesn't have a good chin, his punch resistance isn't all there and this fight should be quick. This fight, probably, doesn't go past 4 or 5 rounds.

    Ji-Hoon Kim and Yakubu Amidu is an interesting fight. Kim, like Provodnikov, is a big hitter and doesn't know the meaning of defense. So, he is fan friendly in that regard. Kim though, his chin has been tested and it isn't rock hard. Hard hitting, once good looking prospect, Leo Zappavigna smashed him in 1 round. Now, Amidu he's a pretty hard hitter, not as hard as his record indicates though. Not even close. 20 wins 18 by knockout, you must be thinking he hits like George Foreman or something. Nah, he doesn't hit that hard. He's got decent power, but nothing earth shattering. But still, he may hit hard enough to trouble Kim. Kim struggled in his most recent fight against a novice so one has to wonder if Kim is pretty much down as a low level contender. So, this fight is interesting, because there are questions. Amidu has worked at Wild Card, and funny enough is managed by the actor Vince Vaughn. Don't think that's all that relevant, but just a funny foot note, none the less. Amidu has decent boxing skills he's a bit stiff, and has his chin sticking out a bit. And I don't think his chin is up to snuff. He's been stopped by Ricky Burns, who doesn't hit hard at all. I think that's the key. I think Kim can take Amidu's punches, while Amidu can't take Kim's punches. So, I've got Kim stopping Amidu somewhat early to mid rounds.

    I like this fight, Robinson Castellanos-Orlando Rizo could be one of those under the radar type fights that is a good fight. Like last week, David Quijano-Javier Gallo. Great fight, under the radar though, unfortunately. Anyway, Castellanos and Rizo are quite similar in a lot of ways. Both are have been hot winning there last 5 fights, same amount of KO's, and style wise there about the same. Both stand up, gloves up, not much of a jab, more a less just stick it out there. More of a range finder. Castellanos though is more of a back foot fighter and may'be a bit slower. Rizo, can fight backing up as well, but prefers fighting forward, and I think he'll mainly be the one moving forward. Both got good power in their back hand. So, I think it's going to be a pretty good fight. I'm favoring Castellanos because he's at home, Rizo has never fought in Mexico and has only fought outside Nicaragua just the one time. Plus, Castellanos has got pretty good timing, good countering abilities in his right hand. I think that could potentially trouble Rizo as he works his way in there. But this should be a good scrap. I'll take Castellanos by UD, but this is a toss up fight. Definitely could go either way.

    Barry McGuigan is very high on Carl Frampton, I think calling him the best prospect he's seen in 25 years. Something along those lines, but I highly, highly disagree with that. Not to say that he isn't a good fighter, yeah, he looks pretty good, but I've seen better prospects in the past 5 years. Carl Frampton is a fun fighter, but he's flawed. He doesn't have any defense to speak of. He's still really green, this will only be his 12th fight, and they have gone nice and slow, but they are slowly getting him good developmental fights. In his 2nd to last fight he fought Robbie Turley a real crafty, unorthodox type fight. And Turley gave him fits. Turley was able to land and if Turley had any power to speak of he would have given Frampton boat loads of trouble. This fight with Kris Hughes I think could emulate that fight. Hughes is a lanky, very tall southpaw. He has no paw, so he won't trouble Frampton at all with his power, if Hughes sticks on the outside and uses that long jab he could definitely pull off an upset...well, if the judges score it right. Close fight though, I think this will be very close, and I'm definitely not going to pick Hughes because he's not the chosen one. So, I'm going with the safe pick in Frampton, but I'd expect a close fight. If Frampton can get in and use his power and stop Hughes, that would definitely be impressive, but I think, eventually, Frampton gets to Hughes in the later rounds and stops him. You know, one of those British stoppages. So, to recap, I expect a close fight, but a late, bit of a questionable stoppage.
     
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    :lol: Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to the fight as well. I think it is interesting to see how that fight will play out for 12 rounds. Hopkins looked a bit troubled as Dawson pressed him. I would like to know if Hopkins could have started figuring him out and timing him coming in. Hopefully, we'll get an answer come April.
     
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    Care to take my bet DD? I got Hughes.
     
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    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Yeah, all right. Why not? I'll take that bet. :good
     
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    PinoyProdigy Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I got everything riding on this fight, and I'm really not that confident :yep