*** Kirks ESB Championships 2008 ***

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  1. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Hang my head IN SHAME on that pick:-(


    I honestly should have known better, but i did expect a more in shape and higher volume approach from Lyakhovich. Even at that? It was evident MID -WAY that Serguei had no answer for Valuev's size.

    BTW? Valuev's over rated by that performance. I'll gladly take Wlad or Povetkin over the OAK TREE:good
     
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    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEES!!!!!!!!!!! haha... oh and i told you your UD pick was safe randeris... valuev has never been a good finisher, or that type of a fighter to really END an opponent who has skills and footwork, so i was sure he wasnt going to stop SL....

    but good win, i heard he looked pretty good.
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I found myself rooting for taylor... i gotta be honest, but im happy with the fight, in the 11th i said who ever wins the 12th imo wins the fight.... and so i agree that pavlik won but that guys score was ****ing stupid....
     
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    - 3-1 (0 KO's) Wlad KO, Duddy KO Bute KO,
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    2-0 - Duddy KO, Wlad KO, Bute UD,
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  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Change the avatar for me Kirk lol =D
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Hmm, I don't think Northend should have been brought down. Sure, Eze has an extra win, but also an extra loss and Northend has two KO's on him.
     
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    interesting..... if two people have the same record basically (one guy has one more win but also one more loss) i give it to the guy whos been in more fights.... but i didnt count the KO's, :think hmmmmm
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    The KO's just indicate that he's up on Eze and me by two spot on picks, should count for something. Plus, it does go back to the fact that Eze is 8-2, not 9-1, Northend is 7-1.

    Think it over, Northend's record is better.
     
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    haha... kk i got to think about this... because my whole system is set up like this

    I see how many more wins someone has over the guy below them, with how many more losses.... if the guy has more wins then losses of the guy below him, hes ranked higher (obviously)

    so someone who is 8-4 will be ahead of someone who is 10-7.. because the 10-7 guy has 2 more wins, but 3 more losses.. you see

    but when things are equal.... there is no seperation between wins and loss differance as in

    9-4 and 5-0

    first guy has 4 more losses, but also 4 more wins... so thats equal.... so i would rank the guy who has more fights ahead..

    but that was the old way.... doesnt account for KO's...

    so im not sure, let me think about this
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Northrend should be 1 contender :good
     
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    well then that settles it :thumbsup ive come up with a new system that accounts for the KO's as well as wins... ;)
     
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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1215857#post1215857







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    John Duddy v Walid Smichet
    Nikolay Valuev v Sergei Liakhovich
    Kelly Pavlik v Jermain Taylor
    Klitschko vs Ibragimov
    Bute vs Joppy
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    Pavlik and Taylor wrote another chapter in their life when the two fought their second fight, a hard fought decision win for Pavlik... in which both fighters impressed. Taylor... with his ability to adapt, for the first time since ive been watching him, NOT go straight to the ropes when pressured, circled and boxed effectively, and mixing up power punches to both the head and body. Pavlik, was the workhorse.... with an ever flowing, steady stream of solid punches, he ground out a close (IMO) decision win. Was a good fight and props to both fighters.


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