klitschkos are not top 20 all time

I don't really have a problem with Wlad being in the top 20.

 

Bowe does not belong in the top 20, and Tyson should be out of the top 10, maybee 12-15.

 

Why should smart people try to convince an idiot of logic. If you
cannot see either klit as a top 10 less a top 20 then you are just
a hater or not smart enough to think for yourself. I'll help you out.
Name more than 10 heavy's who could beat either brother. I cannot name
5.

 

HMMMMMMM.....Let's see???

1. Ross Puritty
2. Lamon Brewster
3. Corrie Sanders
4. Chris Byrd
5. lennox Lewis

And that really didn't take long at all, and outside of lewis I have not really scratched the depth of the top 20 fighters out there.

Personally I think the klit's get sold a little short by many...but than again portraying them as top 5-10 overall or H2H is a bit laughable as well!!!!

 

Ok. Wlad was a kid and gassed versus purrity, and vitaly lost his rotator
cuff not a fight to byrd moron. Every great lost to fighters he wasn't supposed to. Really, if you can finish your post with 10 fighters that can beat todays' version of of either brother then do it. But, i gaurantee you
cannot in good conscience.

 

I would imagine that I could find 10 that i would favor and another 10 who would be a 50/50 type call. Once again i think they get they sold short by some, but I can't see either one as top 10 material overall or H2H. And yes every great (except marciano) has at least one loss...but those are not great losses to have on your record.

 

I keep trying to make your point in reverse. Put the bros back in Ali's day and they would not survive! After war after war ( or should I say after a war with one of the top guys back then) the myth of the greatness would quickly end. Neither is top 20 let alone 30. while I do not agree with the TS list, especially the order, I really do not see anything great with either bros.

 

Wlad is top 20 especially if he finishes on top.

Vitali is has the highest KO percentage for a champ at the weight great skills fights into his older years after injury and lay off.

Shame they dont have a guy to beat that they can be credited for.

They dominate and gt the KO what more can u want.

The Klits get their opponents when they are unproven and ruin them b4 they can become good

Ali beat Liston and Frazier who were established greats Klits had no established greats to beat

Vitali came close vs Lennox and had Wlad beat Sanders we would have saw them go at it

Louis beat Carnera Baer Schmelling Sharkey after they were already champs how many guys did the Klits have to beat that were established like that.

Louis had the bums of the month some of those guys were terrible.

Wlad top 20 easy Vitali maybe just not enough fights or title fights

 

What kind of list do you have where they do not crack the top 30??? I am not a big fan of either one, but have gained an appreciation/respect for their body of work and yes talent over the past couple of years. But who on earth do you have between 15-25 that Wlad is not comprable to?? and between 20-30 that Vitali does not stack up well against???

 

I believe harrison or williams beat a guy with one are so did tyrell briggs i think. besides he was in there with byrd.

 

I think both Klitschkos would be contenders (or hold titles) in most, if not all, HW eras.

It's the rest of the HW division nowadays that is so weak.

 

Wlad is definitely above guys like Louis, Patterson, Marciano, Charles, and Walcott. This is just some nostalgia **** going on. How would any of those guys who would be light heavyweights, and cruiserweights deal with a guy like Wladimir who moves the way he does and hits the way he does. I respect the hell out of the greats of the past but come on really what would any of them do with him.

 

I agree, good assessment!

 

Alright old timer. Go put your teeth back in. So, which fighter in ali's
era would have killed Wlad or even moreso vality? Crude foreman? Lyle?
Frazier(all 6 foot of him) Weaver? eehhmmm. Waxing a little too much nostalgia huh jasper. Only Ali, and a prime ali who was prepared, would have beaten the klits. And it would have been hell against Wlad, as Ali
wasn't the explosive puncher type that gave a younger Wlad trouble.
The rest get beaten up badly. If norton thinks cooney hit him hard, wait
til he feels the right hand of Wlad.

 

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