Kostya was shot

To be fair, your definition of good is very, very loose

Most guys that get a legitimate belt are 'good' I'd suggest, and he beat plenty of them

Floyd Mayweather is way, way, way better than 'good' - he's a virtuoso

 

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At the end of the day it was a real turn up of a result, and one of the best by a British boxer in recent years.

 

KT Had been shot before the Mitchell rematch.And mitchell does have a glass chin.

Hell KT looked horrible in the Hatton bout.He was lured to England by money and Hatton DID NOT beat a peak KT.How KT can be considered not to far removed from his peak at the advanced age of 37/38 and numerous injuries (not to mention inactivity) is just foolish.
You goona tell me if Hatton was fighting at age 38 he would be just as good as when he was 28?


And I'll tell you Hatton fans something else:Hatton is LUCKY he met Vince Phillips when Phillips was way past his prime because if matched prime for prime Hatton would have gotten knocked out.Hell Phillips still managed to shake Hatton in there bout!

 

It was more than shake, believe me. But you forget to mention that Hatton boxed his ears off! Phillips was very underrated but was past it by the time Ricky ran into him.

 

Who has said Hatton beat a peak Zoo? The debate is just how 'shot' (that over used word) Zoo was, IMHO he was past his prime but not shot, the formline between the two Mitchell fights seems to support this.

Yep, Phillps did shake Hatton on the way to losing but its a boxing match you know? These things happen....

 

And how shot was Phillips?? WAY WAY shot.

 

WAY, WAY shot? Is that, like, really really really shot?

 

I believe Phillips was 40 years old by the time he fought Hatton.
Hatton didn't fight any good boxer's in there primes.

 

Ill give you a stat that really tells the story between the Two fighters.

Tszyu Age and Last 5 fight record
R.Mayweather 34 years old (4-1-0) Tszyu 25 years old
J.Bergman 26 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 26 years old
V.Phillips 34 years old (3-2-0) Tszyu 27 years old
R.Ruelas 27 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 28 years old
D.Hurtado 26 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 28 years old
MA.Gonzalez 29 years old (3-1-1) Tszyu 29 years old
JC.Chavez 38 years old (3-2-0) Tszyu 31 years old
S.Mitchell 31 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 32 years old
O.Urkal 31 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 32 years old
Z.Judah 24 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 33 years old
B.Tackie 29 years old (4-1-0) Tszyu 34 years old
S.Mitchell 34 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 35 years old
R.Hatton 27 years old (5-0-0) Tszyu 36 years old

Now thats just a few of the fights

Hatton
F.Pendleton 38 years old (3-1-1) Hatton 23 years old
E.Magee 31 years old (5-0-0) Hatton 24 years old
V.Phillips 40 years old (3-2-0) Hatton 25 years old
B.Tackie 30 years old (3-2-0) Hatton 25 years old
M.Stewart 26 years old (4-1-0) Hatton 26 years old
R.Oliviera 34 years old (4-1-0) Hatton 26 years old
K.Tszyu 36 years old (5-0-0) Hatton 27 years old
C.Maussa 34 years old (3-2-0) Hatton 27 years old
L.Collazo 25 years old (5-0-0) Hatton 28 years old
J.Urango 26 years old (4-0-1) Hatton 28 years old
JL.Castillo 34 years old (4-1-0) Hatton 28 years old
F.Mayweather 30 years old (5-0-0) Hatton 29 years old
J.Lazcano 33 years old (4-1-0) Hatton 29 years old

 

Considering you totally lied about Tszyu's age in your post, your post lacks any creditably whatsoever. In fact I would say most of it is nothing more then bitter, and twisted lies.

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:deal

Read and weep some of you anti English brigade, and whoever else has it in for Hatton, for whatever reasons. It was years ago; get over it, move on!

Tszyu was pretty inactive during the period, and in his mid 30s; that is all anybody can say for sure! By that we can guess that he wasn't at his peak. It's impossible to judge his status (in regards to how far removed he was from prime) by fights because he wasn't fighting much. The fights he was having, he still looked exceptional in. If people want to judge by fights, then Tszyu looks very good around this period with excellent timing and power in the defeat of Mitchel; just 6 months prior to facing Hatton. There is absolutely nothing else to go by. It's simply people, with agendas, making things up out of hate.

 

Yes, Hatton often fought older fighters because it may give his youth an an advantage. It's one of Warrens tactics. Whats new Auz, that nobody didn't already know.

 

Yeah it just goes to show that when two fighters get in the ring any one of them has a chance.

Tszyu was getting old and all i ment by it that Hatton fought the fight of his life.
And like Kostya said on the night no excuses the better man won on the night.
Even though i feel on neuteral ground and both fighters in there Prime might be a different kettle of fish. I think after a few more title wins Hatton will go to the HOF as will Tszyu.

But for some to say Tszyu was shot is untrue. He still was smarter and had the bigger punch and better boxing ability its just Hatton came with a game plan to smoother it all and it worked.

I still think though that Tszyu after the shoulder reconstruction wasnt the same as he was before 2003.

 

Yea, thats a fair viewpoint.

 

This comment is just plain ******ed. So top top 15-20 in your own division isn't "good" (Magee, Phillips, Oliveira). OK. Top 10 in your own division isn't "good" (Tackie, Lazcano, Collazo). Hmm... OK. Top 10 pound for pound isn't "good" (Tszyu, Castillo). WTF??? So are we saying that the p4p #1 is the only good fighting in boxing. Poor old Cotto, Margarito, Vazquez, Calzaghe, Hopkins etc... they must sure be ****!!!

 

Yeah it says that Tszyu fought exceptional opposition. Something we all already know. It tells us that Tszyu is a modern great and a definite hall of famer. Again, something we already know. So Hatton's last 13 opponents (going back to his prospect days) have a combined last five fights record of 52-11-2. Not exactly shabby.

There is also some selective editing going on here. For example, Aldo Rios (29), Rowsell (29), Vilches (28), Smith (29) are left out of Hatton's list, while Mitchell 2 (35), Leija (36), Grove (36) are left out of Tszyu's.

Hatton's list shows a mix of youth and experience which is prevalent in any world list, for example today's Ring p4p top 10:

Pac (29)
Calzaghe (36)
JM Marquez (34)
Hopkins (43)
Vazquez (31)
Margo (30)
Pavlik (26)
Mijares (26)
Rafa Marquez (33)
Cotto (27)

In order to take any context from the above, you have to look at the fighter's world ranking at the time. If a guy in his 30s has gone 3-2 fighting exclusively top 10 opponents, he may be a better name than a 26-year-old who has gone 5-0 fighting cadavers.