Larry Holmes Interview

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    And he also had Cus Damato as his father in law who guided him well before he went professional. A tremendous advantage for Mike that supersedes just 13 months of pro experience. Tyson had years working with D'Amato, who's teaching's were made for what Tyson did best.

    Tills speed and movement bothered Tyson, who never was a later round finisher for the most part. I thought Tyson took it 6-4.
     
  2. Tonto62

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    D'Amato and Tyson were not related until Cus became his legal guardian,he was never his Father in law.
    ps Teddy Atlas did most of the nuts and bolts everyday training of Tyson early in his career.
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

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    I agree Norton was better than both Cooney and Shavers. As a matter of fact, I'm go even further and say Norton would've beaten both in his prime! However Tyson has every stylistic advantage going his way. Barring a hail Mary I don't give Norton any chance whatsoever (and this is coming from someone who despises Tyson).
     
  4. Tonto62

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    Ali did not kick Larry out of his camp, he left because he felt he needed to make his own way.
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Legal Guardian. D'Amato knew Tyson since he was 12 years old, and guided him as a teenager in boxing, Didn't they live in the same house for a while? My point was Tyson had more experience than just amateur fights he had a legend training him.

    [url]https://www.si.com/boxing/2017/05/30/mike-tyson-cus-damato-iron-ambition-book-excerpt[/url]
     
  6. Mendoza

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    Read facing Ali, perhaps the most honest book on Ali. Holmes clearly states Ali kicked him out of his camp because he was too fast for him.
     
  7. RulesMakeItInteresting

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    I think so, too. Except I also think Larry would have stopped George in the late rounds instead of decisioning him.

    This a really interesting idea. I always felt 1980 Larry would have been unanimously decisioned against 60s Ali and been split decisioned by
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  8. Tonto62

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    At not time was he his Father in law which is what you stated, below.

    "And he also had Cus Damato as his father in law"
    Tyson was first married to Robin Givens on 7th of Feb 1988
    D'Amato died on Nov 4th1985
    Since D'Amato was dead 3 years before Tyson got married, and since D'Amato was not Givens Father.,D'Amato was not Tyson's Father in law.to be so would be not only chronologically, but biologically impossible!



    In a TV interview he said he left on his own accord. Since you've mentioned the Facing Ali book as your source ,let's look at what Holmes actually says in that book. After the Wepner fight in 75 Holmes left Ali's camp.
    "At that point [Ali],couldn't handle me any more.I was too fast.I knew every move he made.Four years of boxing with him,I know him.
    When he spit I knew he was getting ready to spit.I knew him and I didn't want to be just a sparring partner.I wanted to be a sparring partner to learn.
    And I did ,I learned with Joe Frazier,I learned with Ernie Shavers,I learned with a lost of heavyweight contenders.But I wanted to get out on my own and make some money not fivehundred dollars a week." Page 287 "Facing Ali" .
    Nowhere in that interview does Holmes say Ali kicked him out of camp! So you are exposed as lying once again aren't you!
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    Legal Guardian. D'Amato knew Tyson since he was 12 years old, and guided him as a teenager in boxing, Didn't they live in the same house for a while? My point was Tyson had more experience than just amateur fights he had a legend training him.

    [url]https://www.si.com/boxing/2017/05/30/mike-tyson-cus-damato-iron-ambition-book-excerpt[/url]

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    I already said that, point was he was helping Tyson in boxing long before he went pro.

    Tyson loved his adopted mother,and Cus was her husband; that's close enough for me. The rest of your dates means nothing to the points I made.

    [url]https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/05/mike-tyson-shares-heartfelt-message-to-his-adoptive-mother-on-mothers-day[/url]

    Also Holmes absolutely said Ali kicked him out of camp for being too fast for him, I don't have the book and would not put it past you for shoddy research or be dishonest and omit what you need, but he did say it. It might not be in that book, but he said it.

    Do you ever wonder why so many people have issues with your posts? At least you learned to be a big nicer than McVey, but you're not fooling anyone.
     
  10. Tonto62

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    No you made two statements that were untrue.And I proved both of them to be lies.
    1.D'Amato was Tysons Father in law .He wasn't !
    2.Ali fired Holmes from his camp.He didn't !
    PS I have the book on my desk as I type this .Do you actually understand that you MORON?
    Want to make another bet for you to welch on? There is no passage in that book."Facing Ali" in which Holmes says Ali kicked him out of camp! How does a $1000 bet sound? Want to make a public bet on it right here ,right now, in front of the forum?

    Come on loudmouth grow some balls and take the bet,which is Holmes does not say in the book Facing Ali ,by Stephen Brunt that Ali kicked him out of his camp.
    I've had to spell it out because you welched before didn't you?
    Waiting for your answer CHUMP!
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Tyson considers Camille Ewald his adopted mother. Who was Cus D'Amato to her? Did you read the link I presented? Why am I arguing with stupid? He guided Tyson as a young man just like I said.

    If you can read, you'd notice I said it might not be in that book, but Holmes said it. Besides it's well known you don't honor bets and are a welcher.

    I'll look into it later. Meanwhile, it's late and the UK and your busy replying to people making of fool of yourself. Get some rest.
     
  12. Tonto62

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    What Tyson considers Camille Ewald is absolutely irrelevant we are talking about your stupid statement that D'Amato
    was his FATHER IN LAW! It's total nonsense!
    This is your post do you now deny making it?
    Yes or No?
    "Read facing Ali, perhaps the most honest book on Ali. Holmes clearly states Ali kicked him out of his camp because he was too fast for him."

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  13. Tonto62

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    I don't need rest, I can expose and humiliate you when I'm half asleep!
     
  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you're both invaluable members of this forum.
     
  15. Tonto62

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    And I think he is a 1st class ****!